So I want to buy a new adc and I've narrowed down to these two champs: Vayne and Varus.
I would like other players' opinions on which of the two I should buy. Include pros cons if possible.
Please keep it to these two and don't start suggesting other adcs, otherwise it can become confusing.
Thanks in advance!
TekkenPlayer2 votesVarus is easy to use strong early game, hard to land ult. It's easier to synergize the the support. Can really peel. Would not recommend him for 1v1 or 1v2, Varus can snipe :D
Good supports with varus: Morgana, Blitz, Nami, Janna, Zyra
Vayne is.. like chauster said, a hard ad carry and really dependent on the support early game. The good part about it is a late game vayne can 3-4 shot people. Very short range so your forced to make ballsy plays. Vayne is fun to play because of her mobility. But laning sucks so bad it can become unfun. Anti-tank due to w procs
Good supports with Vayne: Leona, Alistair, Blitz, Soraka
hh the thinker2 votesvayne:
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Desmond Law2 votesVarus compared to Vayne has a longer wind up for his sustained damage since he must auto then cast spells for his full damage output, forcing him to choose between autoing then ulting or ulting then autoing.
Vayne can keep up her sustained damage towards one target compared to varus's aoe HP shred, but she can pull off the single target kills much faster.
Varus has an easier time farming as he has AA enhancers and a long ranged poke, but Vayne has an on demand escape and self peel while varus's is on the ult.
Eh, ask me any more questions since I play both of them. I prefer playing Varus though. I suck at last hitting, so the AA enhancer really helps.
7ha7guy7772 votesvarus can also build ap (not the most viable thing in pvp from what i hear) and deal tons of damage late-game with his w. you lose a lot of sustain but can chunk people for over 36% of their hp every 3 auto attacks (plus an q, w, or r ignition) and do over 200 magic damage per auto from nashors + W + wit's end. your ult also scales at a ratio of 1.0 with ap i can't really comment on vayne because i haven't played her since s3
Lord Graves III2 votesVarus plays more like a mage and has a really powerful ult and a really long range Q.
Vayne plays more like an assassin, and kills basically anything 1v1 late game.
NoMonku2 votesFor what you posted at the end, Varus is probably better for you.
Vayne To play Vayne to her highest potential, she needs correct positioning. If you want to struggle learning it, though, she is one of the best ADC's to learn it on, as messing up basically = death or harassed out lol. She has one of the highest outplay potentials, but this requires a lot of experience with her to pull off. She has one of the weakest laning phases of ADC's being able to get beat out by most matchups. If she is able to get ahead, though, she will easily be able to dominate if played correctly and she snowballs incredibly hard.
For Varus, he is similar I guess to Ez, but his Q is easier to land as it isn't stopped by minions, just its damage is reduced depending on how many champions/minions it hits. He has easy poke and one of the only two ADC's with an initiation, the other being Ashe. His "flaws" I guess you can say are he has no dash, so he requires good positioning because he has to blow flash to escape. Also his abilities (Q and E) have long CD's.
As a side note, I'm going to suggest other ADC's just for one aspect that they have that Varus/Vayne don't have. I'd suggest playing an ADC with a dash/jump, like Trist, Ez, Lucian, Graves, or Corki. I'm not sure if you own any of these, but I feel it will be less stressful for you to play as you won't have to possibly blow flash whenever the enemy ganks you and you are over extended or if you get caught out of position. Being able to have a jump/dash ability allows you to get away for "free" so it might make the experience funner/better for you.
Wannin7771 votesSo,
Thanks guys, your comments really help!
JustMyBassCannon2 votesVarus' effectiveness in a team fight is not as limited as Vayne's. Vayne needs to be able to focus on a target until they're dead, so she needs her team to hold the rest of the enemy team away until she takes down her first target, then she moves onto the next...Yes, this sounds a lot like how marksmen normally work, but Varus is just a bit more flexible in a fight.
You'll get better as you play. It's really up to you whether or not Vayne or Varus is more worthwhile. That said, while Vayne's anti-tank with Silver Bolts deals ~11% of max HP per three hits (when adding the true damage and based on 2000 max HP, average level 18 max), Varus' deals 15% of max HP (plus 78 flat, meaning approximately 18.9% on that same 2k HP) in magic damage. For Vayne's anti-tank to out-DPS Varus' before accounting for the AP ratio, the target needs more than 70 MR. They're both solid anti-tanks.
Varus has semi-bursty DPS, like Lucian. Except where Lucian goes spell-auto-spell-auto for his burst DPS, Varus goes autos-spell-autos-spell.
chumbler1 votesDon't play Varus. Riot has never actually cared enough about him to try to make him viable or fix gaping flaws in his kit. Vayne isn't necessarily better (actually she is, by a lot), but Varus is bad.
Also if you can barely manage to play the game at all, don't pick either of them.
Wannin7771 votesYeah, I'll go for Varus, since he's easier to play and a bit more well-rounded, safer in a way. And thank you NoMonku for the side suggestion, but I've tried them as free champs and I enjoyed playing as Varus and Vayne. I do own Tristana.
All right, thank you very much guys! Tristana has been the only adc I have, so I can't wait to buy Varus. (That doesn't mean I don't know about adcs, since I've tried them as free champs)