Nobody outscales vayne

paperbIade·Apr 26, 2015·2 votes·760 views

She has true damage and counters tanks that is broken af

15 Comments

Reynard the ƒoxApr 26, 20153 votes

Nasus

Yordle XayahApr 27, 20151 votes

Nasus

paperbIadeApr 26, 20152 votes

And dont say she has a bad early game she can just play passive in lane if she has a good support

Lord DusteonApr 26, 20151 votes

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And dont say she has a bad early game she can just play passive in lane if she has a good support

And if the enemy laner has any form of engage support they can just dive her and kill her.

Otherwise, multiple champions outscale Vayne, notably the infinite scaling ones. Additionally, even if some champions don't outscale her they can still 100-0 her, making her great scaling moot anyway.

BluePolarizerApr 27, 20151 votes

The "safe" Vayne build is essentially impossible to beat in a 1v1 assuming perfect play.

Vayne item 3153 item 3139 item 3046 item 3172 item 3102 item 3035

Veigar and Nasus can't even touch Vayne since she can tumble away from their spells/themselves. With the safe build, you can't even CC he while she attacks at 2.5 attack speed.

Lord DusteonApr 27, 20151 votes

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The "safe" Vayne build is essentially impossible to beat in a 1v1 assuming perfect play.

Veigar and Nasus can't even touch Vayne since she can tumble away from their spells/themselves. With the safe build, you can't even CC he while she attacks at 2.5 attack speed.

Rengar? Talon? Fiora? Heck, reasonably sure any good Nasus could kill her after an EWQ, run away and repeat when W is up again. Even discounting the point and click assassins, most long range adc's should be able to beat her (due to having 800+ damage crits compared to your BotRK and AS build), and short ranged adcs could probably beat her to.

BluePolarizerApr 27, 20151 votes

Banshees blocks E. Then quicksilver the W and kite Nasus indefinitely. I don't see any "good" Nasus. There's not much outplay potential for a Nasus against Vayne. Vayne is either behind enough that she can't kill you while kiting and doesn't have quicksilver sash to purge W, or she does and you can't touch her.

Talon: assuming perfect play, you can actually E him just as he ults (assuming both have red trinket and are fast enough to use it).

Rengar: the above build can't counter Rengar, true. item 3153 item 3139 item 3047 item 3143 item 3035 item 3046 can. Now Rengar can't burst her or snare her, and with red trinket, Vayne can E him mid air too. If Rengar fails to kill Vayne in his first burst, he can't kill her at all since he only has 1 gapcloser from his ult.

SquidblimpApr 26, 20151 votes

All ADCs counter tanks. Also, Veigar and Nasus scale harder than Vayne.

Cruise15Apr 27, 20151 votes

If ur a self respecting vayne nasus will never be able to touch u.. A better way of saying it would be vayne wins every 1 v1 full build in the hands of an experienced player

AetherKingdomApr 27, 20151 votes

actually incorrect

MasterPranksterApr 27, 20151 votes

Vayne is becoming better because of the tank meta, you need to deny her farm and her late game that is the only strategy for counterplay on a bigger scale right now.

It's valid counterplay too, i'd say she is balanced and a little fotm right now.

ReikkenApr 27, 20151 votes

I outscale Vayne.

usul1202Apr 27, 20151 votes

Fiora can beat her. pink ward down for her ult, ult her, lunges to get in range, riposte to stop the condemn if you're fast, to just stop a 3rd stack if you're not, and burst enough to pull it off.

MLDzXnRRRApr 27, 20151 votes

Master Yi... but he is riskier to play. Also most of the champions can just burst her down - she is a cheesy champion, that relies on invisibility and stunning into wall - both of these can be counterplayed.