This Weird Vayne Nerf Doesn't Seem to Be Fixing Her Problem

DogsMoo··10 votes·1,090 views

Ok so on the 6.24 pbe, vayne is getting nerfed(who would've thought). But rather than nerfing the ad ratio on her Tumble at_ later_ levels, the ratio is nerfed at earlier levels. To be honest this seems like a pointless nerf to me because it doesn't fix the current problem with Vayne being that her late game damage w/ shivv being too strong. Not only that, but the stealth duration from her ult is being halved down to 0.5 seconds from 1 second. I can kind of understand if this was to nerf the synergy with duskblade, but why nerf the character and not the item. In my opinion, the problem with Vayne was that she was doing too much damage with a cit build as a result from the changes to her tumble from patches 6.15 and 6.17. With all of this said, this isn't me complaining about Vayne but rather just giving an insight as to how we can fix her in the current state of the game. Anyways I'm wondering what anyone else thinks of this change as this brings a lot of salty tears in my eyes.

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Espy Psyche6 votes

Honestly, I think Vayne needs a mini-rework. She was originally supposed to excel at tankbusting, not squishy killing. Instead of building attack speed and busting tanks, she's building AD and crit and she's two shotting squishies.

Silver Bolts is the most iconic ability Vayne has. She should be building around it, not pretending she's Draven with invisibility who doesn't have to catch axes and has mobility.

I'm going to come back to this post with a reworked Vayne once I design one.

DogsMoo1 votes

That would actually be very interesting to see

hsumis1ove1 votes

naw man. That would throw her completely out of the meta as all other adcs do massive crit damage.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

It's making vayne's early easier to abuse. It's fair in all cases. And the half ult duration will make her less of a pain in the ass to fight too.

If you can't abuse vayne's early, and if she somehow gets fed in bot, yall need some serious doses of git gud.

DogsMoo2 votes

If you can't abuse vayne's early, and if she somehow gets fed in bot, yall need some serious doses of git gud.

I agree with that completely but the problem is that vayne right now can one shot squishies with just a Tumble auto b/c of Shivv crit+ Tumble auto

GULAG 4 U1 votes

If you let a hypercarry scale to lategame, then you prolly played the game wrong. And her late is a bit weaker with ulti nerfs too.

J Eevo4 votes

The problem he was pointing out is that 'late game' for Vayne is now 1-2 crit items and she can go ahead and terrorize for the rest of the game.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Yet the ult nerfs make it easier to lock her down, and riskier.

J Eevo1 votes

In defensive situations sure, if she's on the offense, she rarely uses the whole second of invis, since she doesn't really want to stop attacking for that long.

Hell I'm pretty sure this is the same reason why people argued why the new Duskblade isn't viable on her - you don't ever stay in invis for the whole second unless you're running away.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Vayne players run away? I only see them attemping to 1v5 and asking the support to get a camera

J Eevo2 votes

Ah yes, vaynespotting.

You can bet if they have a skin they're gonna try to go 1v5 at least twice before realizing it's a bad idea.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

It is always fucking Dragonslayer. Bonus points for the Chroma

hsumis1ove1 votes

not one shot.

hsumis1ove1 votes

i dunno what you guys are talking about. The reason vaynes so good right now is her 2 itme power spike shiv/ie. Late game, people like Jhin and jinx rival her damage but they have more range. Vayne is purely a short range all in champ. Twitch also can rival her damage late game. It's not late game thats the problem at all, its her shiv and ie powerspike (she also hits a rather decent one at level 6 with bf sword and zeal). Riot is nerfing this by nerfing her early game q. The stealth duration is pretty pointless as no one abuses the duskblade thing anyways. The reason duskblade is so pointless is because you have to wait the full 1 second for the passive which cuts down on your sustained damage. Also, lethality is complete garbage.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

WHY NERF THE CHARACTER AND NOT THE ITEM!?!?!?

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