why all the hate on Zed?

anding·1/15/2015, 6:22:09 PM·2 votes·805 views

I don't get why people hate him. He's an assassin, like Akali, Kat, and Ahri and Yasuo and many others. the whole point of Zed, like the point of every other assassin, is to delete 1 single champion from the map for a duration of time. if we make it so that Zed isn't an assassin, then what's the point of Zed? if Zed is nerfed, then Riot is gonna have to make every assassin do sustain damage and we'd just have a long boring game where people can't kill each other because it would take forever to kill just 1 person

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SmokingPuffin1/15/2015, 6:24:04 PM3 votes

You understand that Akali, Kat, and Yasuo generate huge hate too, right?

A Zed nerf, which Riot already announced is totally coming to a theater near you, will not mean that Zed will not be able to assassinate people. Look for them to trim away things like waveclear, split pushing, and autoattack damage, while leaving his obnoxiously reliable REQ intact.

Drunk Rummate1/15/2015, 6:34:52 PM1 votes

He's a bit overtuned. He has a little too much of everything. They'll probably remove one of his strengths but I doubt they would nerf his damage so much that he can no longer assassinate. Most likely they'll nerf his waveclear or his laning strength a bit. They could manage that with bigger cooldowns, increased energy cost on E that scales down (like his Q), or lowering damage on consecutive targets hit by Q by a bigger margin, etc.

There are lots of ways to change Zed without him losing his identity as an assassin.

admiralcourvoisi1/15/2015, 7:20:56 PM1 votes

The real reason that people hate so much on Zed is that he has so little offensive counterplay. The only way to reduce his burst is a QSS/Zhonya's to absorb the doubling of his burst damage. But that's defensive. Offensively, it's nearly impossible to counterplay him, since if he is in the lead, he nukes your carries and then gets away free, and if he is behind (Syndra, Orianna, Riven, I'm looking at you), then he split-pushes until he is back up to even on gold and does the same thing. His kit is a great assassin kit, but he's too overtuned to be fair. He literally cannot be irrelevant in a game. Any other midlaner can be stopped, in an emergency, by having your jungler sit on them for the entire laning phase, but even if Zed comes out of laning phase 10 kills behind, he's still going to be able to come back. That's what needs to be changed.

TL;DR: People hate Zed because even if he's down, it's impossible to keep him there if he's even semiskilled.