I have trouble with aggressive gap closer champions on Vlad. I can beat any other kind with ease even swains and fiddlesticks. I however can not beat Wukong or Fiora. Which champion would counter both of these? I am looking at jax, he counters Fiora but not Wukong?
can root champions that gap close her and then kite with her Q
can both keep them down but you're still on a timer since they will both out scale you hard late.
Fiora's best counter is counter play - if you have the weak point facing her, zone it... with WuKong I'll pink my top bush closest to tower so when he cheeses me with his clones I see him coming. Garen and Darius do well pre-3 against both, but go even after everyone has their abilities.
I'm going to say Darius, but not sure.
if i had to guess top lane. probably nasus or something like that. garen. any juggernaut
Jax doesn't counter Fiora...infact she outdamages him hard early game and can negate his E aswell as stunning him.
Wukong is actually a bad laner...champs like Renekton, Garen, Darius, Trundle, Olaf, etc...all destroy him. Fiora doesn't have many hard matchups but there is nothing she can do vs Trundle.
Nasus is my 4th most played champ and I'm going to be completely honest, you can outscale wukong hard but there is no such thing as outscaling a Fiora. She has a massive power spike around levels 2 that starts to taper off around level 18 so yeah. %health true, guaranteed crits, not happening. For Fiora I'd try trundle maybe?
renekton, darius, shen, probably sion...most tanky champos with a good early. However, fiora will outscale any other champ eventually 1v1, so those champs work vs her early in lane, but sooner or later you will reach a point where you can no longer splitpush vs her. The maincounter vs fiora is surviving lane and knowing when the right time to team up is.
Lisandra works great vs fiora as her gapcloseing range is pretty short and liss has instant cc that can't reliably get blocked by her W, but any good wu will kill liss in lane.
Darius and Renekton hard counters wu. Disregard Teemo because Wu counters teemo.
Yasuo works really well against fiora, or at least he did before preseason. Yasuo's e means your vital won't be hit much. Your passive shields you from her poke/wins short engages for you, the 10sec tornadocharge means she has to guess with her parry (once you see him cast the tornado it's usually too late to parry, or you can e>q which makes it really hard to hit the parry even if she guesses correctly about when you'll use it.) The main danger is her ult.
I heard Darius is pretty good against those 2
Darius can absolutely shitstomp Wukong if you go tanky first, and with Fiora it really comes down to a coin toss, but Darius can definitely win it, and hard.
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Jax counters the old fiora not the new one. Honestly Wukong and Fiora are pretty different in their playstyles so using the same champion is probably not the best idea. Going an early game bully like pantheon, renekton, or darius though is pretty good against both of these though.
shes played top for a reason, shield/ult + slow + CC or speed up making her & her poke ability very strong against them. Also her E reveals stealth if he tries to while marked.
idk who counters both simutaniously, maybe teemo (satan) because of the onhit portion of their kits (they each have one)
I've done well against both with Darius and Tryndamere.
Nasus. Survive early on and you outscale both of them hard. Nasus builds armor first, while Vlad doesn't. In general, playing Vlad or Nasus versus Fiora/Wukong you should avoid fighting them early until you get a first item. On Nasus versus Fiora/Wukong, I like to take Cloth 4 with Grasp of the Undying for massive sustain. If you feel like they are going to bully you non stop or inexperienced with Nasus, Corrupting Potion is a must have. Rush Glacial Shroud for CDR and mana, or if you are behind, Warden's Mail. Buy Sheen after Frozen Heart and if you are both even, chances are they cannot duel you. Avoid Fiora's true damage healing ultimate though, try to bait it if possible.
Happy stacking with Susan.
