help! i'm not good with shyvana!!

moonshadowgirl··6 votes·1,240 views

For the past few days, I have been playing Shyvana. I had a decent game with her against bots but, past that I haven't had many decent games. I die too much then we loose. I want to be a good Shyvana player. So, I'm asking League of Legends community for some assistance. I've tried looking at mobafire for builds on Shyvana but it seems I can't get it down. If anyone wants to help me out add me in game and we can go from there.

36 Comments

Raiku Kawisa4 votes

Shyvana seems simple, but thats deceiving. Her kit is very straightforward, but it doesn't allow consistent play. Mastering Azir is learning how to play him and all of the intricacies of his kit. Learning how to use Shyvana's kit is easy, applying her strengths to a game is hard.

Don't gank, Shyvana is not good at it. If the enemy is making love to your laner's tower, then show up and put a boot up their ass. Counterganking is also good. The enemy is less likely to back out if there are even numbers.

Don't go full tank. Shyvana has no impact outside of her damage. If she does no damage then the enemy team can ignore her until the rest of her team is dead. You need at least 2 damage focused items. Bloodrazer jungle item + Choose One (Trinity Force, Blade of the Ruined King, Titanic Hydra)

Do focus on objectives. You see the enemy jungler top lane? Go take dragon (Shyvana can solo it post lvl-6 if she has Bloodrazer or at least a Recurve Bow), go take all of the enemy's bot jungle, so force a gank bot to take their tower.

Do split push. Shyvana is exceptionally good at splitpushing because of her love of attack speed. If you have a Tri Force, you have bonus points in the split push category. Another reason she is good at it is because she is really good at dueling. If only one person shows up to stop you, unless they are a better duelist like Yi, Jax, or Trundle, you will probably beat them. If they send more than one, then your team has more pressure else where on the map. (When i play it sometimes takes three people to bring me down)

EDIT: In case you can't tell from the other comments. Don't listen to MaropaL2. He is just trolling.

MaropaL21 votes

"Dont Gank"

"Bloodrazor" you know shiv isn't a class that needs attack speed, right? you should read into her to find out the options you gave him here were wrong except titanic hydra.

btw i can teach you how to solo beat jax/yi etc as shivana, as her Q damage can be insane, also playing her as hybrid in some cases (e.g. ap-slow) can be awesome against jax as he doesnt stand a chance

Raiku Kawisa4 votes

What kind of troll shit are you speaking? Im not going to even comment on the AP-slow build which i find sub optimal since her scalings are shit. But Shyvana's entire kit runs off Attack Speed. Q CD is reduced for each hit, W has on-hit dmg and its duration is extended for each hit up to a cap, her e applies a debuff that deals %HP dmg per hit, her ult gets charged faster for each hit.

MaropaL21 votes

maybe in NA its common to suck at things .. i mean no wonder bronze in euw can compete with diamond 5 in NA

So you only play her on Ability Spam and not on Tank/Damage?

Mid/Late Game Shiv 3-4hits jax

Attack Speed doesnt mean Damage. While you go Bloodrazor and loose pretty much every duel, i go for the carry and win.

Crystal Scepter is a must have, as the enemy cant outrun you while you're W is active

Mostly i use: Cinderhulk, Crystal Scepter, Black Cleaver, Frozen Mallet, Titanic Hydra Not always the same as you get Items which are the best to counter the enemy team

Raiku Kawisa3 votes

yup, definite trolling.

At least i hope you are trolling because i feel sorry for you if you are not.

MaropaL21 votes

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yup, definite trolling.

At least i hope you are trolling because i feel sorry for you if you are not.

ha that troll, knows im right and tries to hide it xD pure attack speed build and goes Exhaust, but calls crystal scepter garbage .. :D nice trolling dude

Mira Arya Enthe4 votes

Gud troll bro

RaiokuMoonscar1 votes

Dude even as an AP that build is ridiculous.

item 1413 item 3748 item 3020 item 3116 item 3001 item 3157

This would work better, I don't recommend it as a every game build at all. This is more of a just wanna have fun build or only somewhat legit if your entire team is AD >.>

More on point tho as a main build nvr go the ap one,

These are far more valid, item choices may vary game to game but this is the usual standard for me:

item 1416 or item 1401 > item 3748 item 3022 item 3111 item 3065 > item 3075 or item 3026

Any of these builds I always have 23% base attack speed increase from runes and masteries, it's a no brainer that she needs it.

Mira Arya Enthe7 votes

Pffffffhwaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

I saw this coming a mile away. Lol.

69469238DEL12 votes

tell us more about how Shyvana doesn't need attack speed lol

MaropaL21 votes

what would you prefer: getting rekt or go wreck them? going cinderhulk and scepter gets you 2x aoe damage (while w is active, even if stunned) and slow. can be pretty badass if you fight against 1v1 jax having a mail. after the stun ends you 1hit jax with active hydra

69469238DEL11 votes

Crystal Scepter is borderline troll, but I can see your point. Still wouldnt build it

MaropaL21 votes

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Crystal Scepter is borderline troll, but I can see your point. Still wouldnt build it

gives you all you need: hp for titanic hydra ap for w/e/r slow aoe

but keep on trolling with your non hp/damage builds <3

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

When they added AP to her W they made an AP build barely playable, still not as viable as her tank or damaged focused builds.

Raxistaicho1 votes

I'm actually fond of Valkrin's build of switching Bloodrazor out for Cinderhulk and picking up a Phantom Dancer for more AS. BRazor is pretty bad.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Phantom Dancer is a decent item to consider. I prefer damage and Cinderhulk delays that. Not saying its bad, I just don't prefer it.

MaropaL21 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raiku Kawisa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rgoBWps8,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2016-11-01T16:16:00.802+0000)

Phantom Dancer is a decent item to consider. I prefer damage and Cinderhulk delays that. Not saying its bad, I just don't prefer it.

titanic hydra stacks with hp, but your build doesnt have that so you should consider building something else.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Because Shyvana does better with Attack Speed than she does with pure tank. Titanic is the only reason full tank Shyvana works at all.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

how are you playing her ? jungle? what build. runes? masteries?

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

All good questions.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

lol do i get a item 2010 now ? treat me like im slow or something ... wtf

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

I think she was implying that the OP didn't give enough information for us to really help him.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

lol its me and her fukin with each other... we are buds

[10:11PM] : lol dont patronize me "all good questions" phft [10:13PM] Mira Arya Enthe: I will too :3

said in client chat... after the comment was made

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

I take you also play the glorious dragon lady?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

fuk no .. i play useful champs

like Trundle and put that drag on a leash

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

Trundle makes me cry :( he is on the list of champions that can easily outduel Shyvana.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yea n i troll Mira Arya Enthe bout how trundle trumps her...

lol

also how nunu will just throw a snowball and blood boil himself and run away spaming laugh

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

XD Shyvana is at least more useful than a meat shield post laning

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

nunu can out jungler her with two smites and low cds and he can debuff her attack speed and movement speed and she has to burn flash or ult if in drag form to get out of his ult

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

yes, if Nunu successfully counter jungles Shyvana out of the game then he is a problem, but in a straight fight I do not see Nunu winning.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well he isnt a duelist.. that is why he snowballs her face and spams laugh as he walks away but in team fight vs a shy who has no cc , has to target one champ and auto with her costly build path and subject to kiting he has aoe damage and buffs adc and can slow and items like frozen heart are core on him

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

you... are not wrong

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Add me. I one trick Shyvana. About a 60-61% win rate ranked. 70% norms. I am only silver but I rarely play ranked. I will help with what I can. Also sending this to other Shyvana mains I know.

PapaGreg211 votes

Shyvana is fairly weak right now in the scheme of things.

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