Yuumi barely feels fun to play, and it is a massive pain in the ass to lane against.

PEPSINKINGisback··3 votes·1,579 views

My personal problem with this champion is how stupid her whole gameplay is ATM. You just sit there, throw some q's, maybe spam e when your adc trades like a bronze III and when you're in a team fight, just press r and see the magic happen.

I've played yuumi a couple of times, and I really could of not thought of any playstyles that I could adapt her to. And the only thing that separates the low-skill from the high-skill are timed w's against catchers like Blitz or Thresh, and playing your Q's properly.

And don't come at me with "but It's awful in early", 'cause you can easily pair yuumi with a powerhouse like Garen or Tryndamere, even Lucian, to compensate for most of her weaknesses, farm till the 10th minute, then wake up you can spam your abilities by then. Sometimes even ganks can't help for how big her E boosts are.

And personally, the only issue I have with this champion is that I can't do shit about all of that. I can only just farm while staring at her spectating with her heals and occasional q's. I think that's one of the first supports you can't do shit about, and the closest offenders of this case can be rakan with his long ass dash and janna with her slowing w, but I can somewhat see the counterplay against these two in bot ( apart from when rakan gets knight's vow, by then he's basically unstoppable as long as his adc has lifesteal ). The best counterplay I can think of against yuumi is to harass the hell out of the enemy adc. But if it's a Darius for example... Tough fucking luck with that. And you also can't poke him down 'cause he can reel you in with his E/charge you with yuumi's E boosts.

Yuumi looks like an amazing design, as it is one of my favorite champ designs, but her game mechanics make me feel like I'm playing with a tamagotchi, and her weaknesses are so easy to compensate, It's like getting a math test with only a question and 2 answers.

What I would find like a great tweak to her kit would be to expose her out more often than she currently does. Give out more windows for the enemy laner to take advantage of, like reversing the Q mechanics by putting the attached Q to the detached, and vice versa. And to compensate for her fairly bad early, she should either be less costly or have less cool down on her Q and (maybe) ultimate.

This wouldn't solve all the problems she has, but it would certainly make her a more viable/mechanically intensive champion.

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Keiaga4 votes

I have a lot of fun playing yuumi and also have no issue laning against her because I know how to be aggressive against her early game.

PEPSINKINGisback2 votes

Can you tell me how you would tackle a darius x yuumi duo on bot? I've just had a slice of that and it almost tastes like season 2 AP Master Yi.

I might have actually done something wrong which made the duo snowball hard af.

You can choose your pick, just count in everything Darius and Yuumi can do.

Keiaga3 votes

Pick any support champ with a good level 2 all-in. Wait for yuumi to shoot a q and go in. Either it's going to be a 2v1 or yuumi detaches and does a minimal amount of damage since she's a very squishy, very weak champ with long early cooldowns.

PEPSINKINGisback1 votes

but Darius will most probably E + Basic + w + basic the adc as most adc's are squishy in early. after my all-ining, darius might have already killed the adc by the time I finished the burst. Yuumi's also gonna have her Q + E as her W's a free stack ( from what I can remember ). If there really is a support with a good enough level 2 all-in to take care of darius, what would it be? So far, Shen 's a solid pick considering your indications.

I get that the span of her q's an opening window, but we must have a really hard burst to scare yuumi off/ double kill. And now that I'm thinking of tweaks, yuumi getting affected by the same debuffs/stuns the ADC gets actually sounds like something I'd like to be tested in PBE. That would bring up a blend of pros and cons to her, and really, just another way to make yuumi more mechanically intensive, as you can detach before the adc gets stunned, get back in, then save him.

And the tweaks I'm talking about are just to make yuumi more mechanically intensive while also giving her more space in the buffing segment, which should bring her skill floor higher.

People who play her would probably know the buffing department.

Keiaga1 votes

Not gonna argue what should or would happen or how likely it is going to happen. The basic battle strategy and what you want to do 100% of the time is to be hyper aggressive and force a fight between yuumis q to take advantage of her being a weak champ early on

Veloz Destello3 votes

Two things: you don't have fun playing as / against her, so you think all the others feel the same.

You talk like if she were close to be strong, when she's maybe the weakest solo q champ with a wr of... 40 %?

PEPSINKINGisback1 votes

Two things: I was talking from my perspective, and what I'd find as a healthy tweak.

And I really do find her to be a solid pick as long as her attached pick is a strong early like Darius . And the fact yuumi's a pain to deal with in low-elo and a joke in the high-elo's, It's just season 8 Garen all over again.

Room 362 votes

I actually had fun in the few times I played her, but I've refrained from playing her since because I believe she is a fundamentally unfair and cancerous addition to the game.

PEPSINKINGisback1 votes

yuumi's the Garen of the supports, and I genuinely hate how similar the comparisons are. I just hope that she'll get some sort of a rework on her mechanics as she's mildly infuriating at how carefree you can be with her in lane.

AronCartman2 votes

I like to play yummi while autofilled jungle or support and eat food or watch YouTube and not be banned for afk

Baby Ghoul2 votes

I genuinely don't see how anyone can have fun playing Yuumi.

She's a caricature of what people who put down enchanters think they are.

They need to completely rework her because her kit just cannot be allowed to be viable in its current state. In pro play she's still banned after being a must pick or ban earlier this year.

Power from enchanters needs to come with a significant amount or risk, otherwise they're brainless to play.

Playing an enchanter is about having all the enemy's attention on you while making your teammate's believe they're making all their plays on their own. That's the tea and that's the difficulty of playing enchanters. You need to be one step ahead of the enemy. Yuumi had all the benefits of being an enchanter, without having to interact.

Yuumi is just way too safe to be an effective enchanter and that's the fundamental problem with her design and why she makes certain matchups miserable.

NoPaxt1 votes

I want to lane against Yuumi, kill the carry and she runs... take tower take lane.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

as a support main i love it when the enemy picks yummi

such an easy lane to deal with

vgamedude1 votes

IMO yuumi sucks. Extremely easy to push in and the stats back it up

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