Should there be a yasuo nerf ?

SrEckO··5 votes·1,081 views

I think there is a huge problem with this champion. There shouldn't exists a champion that kit is ment to out scale EVERY single champions kit in the game, i understand there are some champions that do not scale to late game, cause they were designed to have good early game, and or are utility based, but his early game isn't weak either (will get back to this later). So his core items/stats are AS,CRIT and AD, why dose he get double CRIT chance ? I know his dmg is reduced but it still only 10%, so looking at math it is failry worth to have double CRIT cause it favors his dps by alot. Than why dose he have reduced CD on his Q from AS ? I find it ridiculous when mid game yassuo miss like 2 Q's in 1v1 mele fighter fight but still beats other champs ass and quoting "ez" while missing his core abilty twice ?!!?!? Phantom dancer yasuo with AS quints and marks has sooo low CD on his Q like idk if it is caped (caps on 66%) but he can do Q auto Q auto Q, and that is on 1.2-1.4 AS, a one item, basicly not needing any skill wut soo ever. And after all that his Q crits..... IE Phantom dancer yasuo allows for some funny one shots on adc that is not behind on lvl farm or gold, funny how dps fighters have both sustain and one shot potential at same time, with 2 sec knock/stun and unique mechanic-the wall, making every divers weakness non existing to him ( geting cced and controled by mage and support while 5 shoted by adc). After all that if he cant use his Q, cause he is authistic or something, he can always use E Q combo for sure dmg again making his only skillfull thing irelevant. Most ppl say that he can be dealt with early game..... Idk if i am bad player but as top main (wukong fiora and trynda) i find yasuo matchup harder than some suppose to be lane bully matchups (renekton,rumble....). Ofc yasuo base stats are crap, but why does one champ have soo much mechanics on lane phase ? E has no CD but full 475 range, little lower than adc attack range (550), making trades with him is always unfavorble if u dont have lockdown( not alot of champs do cause it is unfair mechanic). AS quints and marks with feavor of battle make him out dps any longer trades than 5 sec, and he got that 3th Q cc, should be irelevant but if u start a trade when he has 1 stack, he will probably have that knock on u at end of the trade. Shield is nice addition to lane phase sustain, just cause he cant use his CRIT passive at start of the game, but you know he will out scale you even if u are 3/0 if he buys that zeal....

I became really ranty, idk maybe i am just bad, maybe i am playing vs yasuo gods(doubt it), or he rly dose need some tuning down. At the end these are my thoughts, would like to hear other players constructive thoughts, maybe idea to help me beat that bastard champion....

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DaNinad2 votes

A wild item 3068 appears!

SrEckO2 votes

As AD fighter ?

Leo10241 votes

as an ap mage???

SrEckO1 votes

Nope, will not work cause mages are based on long range, sunfire is made to deal dmg on low range

Leo10241 votes

i know that's point i'm trying to make, sun fire only works on tanks

dchxlgfn11641 votes

I dose knot now wat you just sayed at all

SrEckO1 votes

Said constructive thoughts.......

DaNinad1 votes

A wild item 3157 appears! Idek what I'm saying.

Purple Death1 votes

A lot of people will tell you that you're wrong but you simply aren't apdo himself has said in several reddit posts who is the most busted champ he always says yasuo. The thing is his entire kit is busted as is for obvious reasons I won't go into because you kind of did for the most part. Anyway yasuos dont lose lanes because of the laner they lose because of the jungler ganking them. His laning is busted even so because you can go 0-2 come to lane with 20% crit but crit every auto attack because Yasuo . He is effectively busted. Imagine if Zed was given double crit in the place of his q but given a passive shield. Sounds broken right. Y'all can disagree with me all you want but he is overpowered since they released him.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Jeez, your post is so hard to read. Please use paragraphs.

Sightless661 votes

So, I'm not going to make any judgment on whether or not Yasuo needs nerfs (he annoys me, but I can't really say I think he's overpowered), but I am going to respond to some of the design questions you raised.

why dose he get double CRIT chance

Because any melee carry is going to need some kind of major steroid in order to function. Trynd gets 35% crit chance for free. Master Yi gets huge true damage on-hit in addition to increased AD. Fiora does %hp true damage. Even Aatrox gets a huge chunk of attack speed with his ult and passive. All of these are ways of granting melee damage dealers a way of actually doing enough damage to make it worth playing them as autoattackers.

looking at math it is failry worth to have double CRIT cause it favors his dps by alot

Of course it does. It's an ability on his kit. It should help him.

If you want context on his damage, take a look at the other melee carries for a comparison. Trynd gets 35% for free with no damage reduction. Yi's true damage blows crit out of the water for sheer dps potential. Both are as good as or better than Yasuo's passive, and yet they aren't problems like he is. Clearly, steroids alone aren't the problem.

Than why dose he have reduced CD on his Q from AS

Again, to force him to build as an autoattacker instead of a pure AD burst assassin or as a tanky bruiser. Scaling with combat stats is a way of discouraging tanky base stat builds.

Most ppl say that he can be dealt with early game

It's matchup dependent. Certain champions (most bruisers) deal with him relatively easily, while mages will often have trouble. For the record, Wukong tends to win more games than he loses against Yasuo, Trynd loses more games than he wins, and Fiora seems to be about even.

Realistically, beating him in midgame teamfights when his damage hasn't scaled up enough to make up for his melee vulnerability and lack of great burst or reliable CC is probably the easiest way to deal with him. It's only really late game where he starts to become somewhat scary.

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