Countinuous zyra nerfs

vitax10··6 votes·1,080 views

Zyra Time ago even before rework zyra was absolutely op. I get that it needed the rework , but at that time it was a hearthbreaking situation. E root to 0,5 sec to make ppl max E . That was brutal. She couldnt do too much dmg without plants.Then RIOT nerfed rylais and wrote down some champs that were using this item like every game. There was some rumble and others. Zyra too. So i thought... fine they"re gonna at least do some buff to balance this.They didnt. And then from nowhere nerf to her mana cost on Q. At this point zyra was all about maxing E and smart positioning of plants, building nerfed rylais and liandrys. And now on PBE Zyra"s plant hp has been lowered to 2. Is this for real?? RIOT made zyra all about plants and then they like naaaah lets make her more useless than she already was.The only reason why ppl loose against zyra at this point is that they dont know how to counter her. But thats no reason to make her useless.From the other side we have yasuo that everyone can counter bcs hes like in every game. They can counter him but they cant fight him cause hes so op. And the yasuo nerf came on PBE just these days.After all this you just practicaly build nerfed items on zyra,cant do dmg with Q cause of its zoning,mana cost and base dmg,you need to max E to be good at engageing and teamfights and u cant do dmg after death when your plants are so squishy and you have nothing like old passive.I demand justice for zyra mains!

8 Comments

Mig892 votes

I main her and the single biggest nerf was the plant AI. I tend to put a few points in E then max W first but if they're lowering plant health without increasing the damage, what's the point. She's already a lot less oppressive than last season and they want to nerf her even further??????

draecina2 votes

Before they changed the plants AI to not automatically hit enemies I thought she was a little too strong. After that nerf though, I now noticed she's way too underpowered when I play against her. Not sure why they're nerfing the plants further. No one is even complaining about her.

Mig891 votes

Exactly. Stopping them from automatically attacking the closest champion was a huge Nerf. Now it requires a bit more skill but she still viable. I feel like nursing her plants health is going to just completely kneecap her. I have a 60% win rate on her but she's pretty much all I play so I don't feel like that's too rough or too good of a win rate and I'm only in silver LOL

Rexxiee2 votes

Shes one of the most broken supports in the game and has been for a while.

Sèx Craved Eve1 votes

Woof, wall of text. I honestly believed that with her plant AI changes, she'd be in a much healthier state. Sure, her plants are annoying with how much you have to attack them before they die, but it didn't fell overbearing.

Pater Gascoigne1 votes

Its kinda like the Malzahar situation all over again. They shifted the power into the minions and then nerf them without compensating elsewhere

1337 h4x0r babe1 votes

She is unplayable now.

okamiyasha951 votes

Let's be honest. Zyra needed the nerfs and still do to this day, she needs nerfs. Her plants still do too much of damage and it is not that hard to set her plants up. Her nerfs only moved her from one shotting the adc at 5 mins every second they try to cs to one shotting the adc at 5 mins when they fight which makes it easier for the adc to cs A LITTLE BIT more. Also, on the crystal scepter nerf, they gave her plants a built-in Rylai's. Before you bring in champion's like sona and brand when high damage supports come into play, zrya's plants surpass them in damage. Every time they are up, it's like a 4 v 2. With Brand all you have to do is dodge is q and w which dont target or lock on to targets and his q is interruptable. His w is predictable. With Sona, all you have to do is bait her q or at least outsustain her q. She has no cc besides ult. Zyra. All you can do is either outsustain her which won't happen due to her extreme burst damage and mana nerfs to sustain champs or constantly farm under turret from plants autopushing the lane and hope someone can gank her. IF, you can get close enough to her by her missing her e. You cant fight a Zyra after lvl 3. Even if she is caught out of position, she'll root you, summon her plants, and escape while you take constant damage from her adc and plants and minions. Yes, I know she is in a weaker state from before her nerfs. I used to play her too, but anytime a support, the role that doesn't get a lot of gold income, out damages an adc at all stages of the game or makes it too risky to even cs, they deserve a nerf. Sona dealt too much damage as a support and thus, she got nerfed. Brand is a mid laner. Of course he's supposed to do heavy damage.

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