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Can we talk about Illaoi.......

Smawqq··2 votes·3,656 views

Massive hitboxes, insane sustain, insane damage. If you don't pick a deliberate counter ( i.e. you lock top first), the lane is almost unplayable. And before all these people come rushing to her rescue with the "oh play quinn with ignite easy lane easy game" BS, Khan just played illaoi in pro play and they literally had to leave him alone the entire game because they cant fight an illaoi with 4 other people on her team. It is getting out of hand and she needs to be brought down a tier for sure.

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Jamaree4 votes

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Massive hitboxes

Not really.

insane sustain

Only if she hits you.

insane damage.

Only if she steals your soul, stay away from walls and stand behind minions.

If you don't pick a deliberate counter ( i.e. you lock top first), the lane is almost unplayable.

Not really, she is a lane bully, that is kind of what lane bullies do.

And before all these people come rushing to her rescue with the "oh play quinn with ignite easy lane easy game" BS, Khan just played illaoi in pro play and they literally had to leave him alone the entire game because they cant fight an illaoi with 4 other people on her team. It is getting out of hand and she needs to be brought down a tier for sure.

So the champion that has only seen one pro game since her last 3 years of being a champion, currently sitting at a 50% win rate, and barely sees play needs a nerf just because?

Smawqq1 votes

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Not really.

Only if she hits you.

Only if she steals your soul, stay away from walls and stand behind minions.

Not really, she is a lane bully, that is kind of what lane bullies do.

So the champion that has only seen one pro game since her last 3 years of being a champion, currently sitting at a 50% win rate, and barely sees play needs a nerf just because?

Also looks like from all your profiles comments you just go on here and harass people with passive aggressive sarcastic comments. Gj kid.

Kanzler3 votes

She's thicc

Devilreaper XIII2 votes

played illaoi maybe one or two times and owned with her, shes too easy to play and broing, she indeed needs an nerf or two.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

She doesn't need a nerf, but rather a rework. Which I'm not sure how Riot could even go about doing without completely changing the champion. She's probably the most unfun champion to lane against in the game. Feels like playing some stupid tentacle dodging minigame instead of League.

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

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She doesn't need a nerf, but rather a rework. Which I'm not sure how Riot could even go about doing without completely changing the champion. She's probably the most unfun champion to lane against in the game. Feels like playing some stupid tentacle dodging minigame instead of League.

dodging tentacles isn't the problem though they are easy to dodge, being hit by just one chunks too much hp, illaoi is a bruiser and tank in one, she needs either her def lowered or her damage, her ult can even bring her back to 100% health, i've seen it happen [sg-ahri-1] all you have to do as illaoi is spawn tentacles and wait untill someone gets near them to press W, when they are at least 50% hp just activate ult and they are dead. another possibility is that riot removes controlling the tentacles on her W, which would make her a bit more fair to play against, making the tentacles have a life of their own instead, similar to zyra her flowers.

Smawqq1 votes

Your entire comment was useless. That's the same as saying "don't get hit by skillshots, and land all your own skillshots, easy game" Lmao I've never seen a comment with such lack of substance

Jamaree1 votes

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Your entire comment was useless. That's the same as saying "don't get hit by skillshots, and land all your own skillshots, easy game" Lmao I've never seen a comment with such lack of substance

As opposed to your comment of just using buzzwords and using a single game as evidence of a champion being OP right?

Smawqq1 votes

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As opposed to your comment of just using buzzwords and using a single game as evidence of a champion being OP right?

Many, many games of dealing with Illaoi. Maybe if you played more than you're on the boards, you'd understand what's happening in the game right now.

Jamaree1 votes

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Many, many games of dealing with Illaoi. Maybe if you played more than you're on the boards, you'd understand what's happening in the game right now.

You think this is my only account?

Smawqq1 votes

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You think this is my only account?

I really don't care kid, just by looking at all your comments and seeing how obnoxious and pointless everything you say is, I can only imagine what a nightmare it is to actually play with you. It looks like you disagree with everyone about everything just for the sake of arguing. You're like the kid who owns every baseball card and knows every MLB stat but can't swing a bat to save your life. You've contributed nothing to this thread. Begone peasant

Colton1471 votes

Illaoi is a very mechanically intensive champion and had a high skill ceiling. She sadly has too much counterplay to be a viable pick.

Smawqq1 votes

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Illaoi is a very mechanically intensive champion and had a high skill ceiling. She sadly has too much counterplay to be a viable pick.

She definitely isn't mechanically intensive. She's given extreme survivability and damage without requiring her to counterplay. Unless you play a deliberate counter, you're standing at a disadvantage.

JhonTeemon1 votes

OP. If you want to deal with Illaoi, just pick Quinn and bully her out of the lane.

Smawqq1 votes

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OP. If you want to deal with Illaoi, just pick Quinn and bully her out of the lane.

Ok so if you read my original statement you would've seen I said before everyone jumps on the "play Quinn" train that illaoi is way too much to deal with if you don't get to counter pick. All I'm saying is she needs to be brought down a tier, you shouldn't have to deliberately counter pick to win lane/game against a champion. You should be able to expand your champion pool without being severely punished because illaoi is given every resource in the game to cruise through lane. Literally something like increased time on passive so the fking tentacles aren't spawning every half second or reduced damage from her passive tentacles. Increased cooldown on her spirit pull, and a smaller hit box on all abilities. She would still be a viable pick but without absolute bullshit abilities

Jamaree1 votes

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Ok so if you read my original statement you would've seen I said before everyone jumps on the "play Quinn" train that illaoi is way too much to deal with if you don't get to counter pick. All I'm saying is she needs to be brought down a tier, you shouldn't have to deliberately counter pick to win lane/game against a champion. You should be able to expand your champion pool without being severely punished because illaoi is given every resource in the game to cruise through lane.

I don't think you understand the concept of a lane bully, that is literally what lane bullies are there for, they are literally meant to win lane and require certain champions or playstyles to beat. Renekton is a lane bully and requires you to play someone tanky to actually trade. Rumble is a lane bully that requires either sustain or an insane amount of early damage to outtrade, Gangplank requires range to be able to properly handle his barrels, the list goes on.

Literally something like increased time on passive so the fking tentacles aren't spawning every half second or reduced damage from her passive tentacles. Increased cooldown on her spirit pull, and a smaller hit box on all abilities. She would still be a viable pick but without absolute bullshit abilities

Why, for what purpose, she isn't OP, why nerf what isn't broken?

JhonTeemon1 votes

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I don't think you understand the concept of a lane bully, that is literally what lane bullies are there for, they are literally meant to win lane and require certain champions or playstyles to beat. Renekton is a lane bully and requires you to play someone tanky to actually trade. Rumble is a lane bully that requires either sustain or an insane amount of early damage to outtrade, Gangplank requires range to be able to properly handle his barrels, the list goes on.

Why, for what purpose, she isn't OP, why nerf what isn't broken?

Recommend him quinn. I believe quinn makes illaoi's laning phase horrible haha.

Jamaree2 votes

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Recommend him quinn. I believe quinn makes illaoi's laning phase horrible haha.

Any ranged champion does, she loses hardcore to ranged, but in turn gets to dumpster melees in most circumstances.

Smawqq1 votes

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I don't think you understand the concept of a lane bully, that is literally what lane bullies are there for, they are literally meant to win lane and require certain champions or playstyles to beat. Renekton is a lane bully and requires you to play someone tanky to actually trade. Rumble is a lane bully that requires either sustain or an insane amount of early damage to outtrade, Gangplank requires range to be able to properly handle his barrels, the list goes on.

Why, for what purpose, she isn't OP, why nerf what isn't broken?

She is broken. Rumble is pretty weak right now, and his downfall is if you spam abilities you're silenced for 6 seconds. Renekton needs his fury bar for empowered abilities and he loses fury if he's not attacking. GP got nerfed to shit in one of the recent patches and you can outsustain him because his parry costs so much mana now. They all have their generalized weak spots. Illaoi does not, and she needs to be nerfed.

Jamaree1 votes

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She is broken. Rumble is pretty weak right now, and his downfall is if you spam abilities you're silenced for 6 seconds. Renekton needs his fury bar for empowered abilities and he loses fury if he's not attacking. GP got nerfed to shit in one of the recent patches and you can outsustain him because his parry costs so much mana now. They all have their generalized weak spots. Illaoi does not, and she needs to be nerfed.

Yeah, and here generalized weak spot is that she is utterly reliant on skillshots to do most of her damage, and if she wants to actually hurt you or the team, she has to walk into five people, not dash, not leap, not jump, no, walk into five people. Her generalized weak spot is ranged, it shits on her, why would you nerf it simply because she does well against melee, nor have you said a reason, a REAL reason, she needs nerfs besides just because at this point. Her win rate is literally 50% right now, seems to me she is in a pretty good place.

Mr Mxyzptlk1 votes

Can we talk about how your in bronze first.

Smawqq1 votes

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Can we talk about how your in bronze first.

Oh lol I forgot how you were a challenger player after like 6 seconds of playing this game. Fucking stupid ass retard

You've also played almost 1000 games this season and you still have a winrate under 50%. Gj toxic fāggot

Mr Mxyzptlk1 votes

Your win rate is 40% in bronze bud. And you don't even play ranked so idk why you even bother complaining about balancing problems. Game balancing isn't the reason your in bronze.

Smawqq1 votes

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Mr Mxyzptlk1 votes

I won around only 3 of my placements and still go placed in plat 3 for the beginning of the season 8. I don't know why your getting so offended. If you are in bronze no balance changing is the reason you are in bronze. Illaoi isn't broken at all and I bet you numerous high elo players would agree with this. There really is no point for you to even make a post so you might as well just delete this. Also if you want to talk penis size mine is 8.4 inches erection and 6.25 inches in girth erect. I'm not trying to brag or anything but I doubt your bigger then me. Also I don't need to contribute to this thread with other evidence because you being in bronze disapproves of all your points. Just delete this post kid.

Smawqq1 votes

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Mr Mxyzptlk1 votes

replying to a 6 month old comment? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL????????

ZURELL1 votes

that team must have been bad then

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

grievous wounds shuts her down so much that it's not even funny.

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