What does it take to get an S in jungle

Westwrd·Oct 30, 2017·1 votes·11,441 views

Ok riot. I went 5-0-8 as a tank jungler where the enemy team surrendered in 22 min. I got an A and the top lane who was 8-7-2 got an s. As a jungle main I find upsetting. I worked super hard all game ganking lanes and making sure they got ahead while trying to keep my farm up and have objective control(we got both dragons and the herald). I feel that according to your system with the current metrics that in order to get an S rank in the jungle you need to be incredibly selfish and just hard farm and kill steal from your lanes which is why junglers on average have a higher rate of being highly toxic to the community.

17 Comments

Whats A RivOct 30, 20176 votes

WestwrdOct 30, 20171 votes

That is my point, how can you get CS if you are ganking lanes to help them get ahead, which is what a jungler should be doing.

PoskeOct 30, 20171 votes

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That is my point, how can you get CS if you are ganking lanes to help them get ahead, which is what a jungler should be doing.

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e46 FanaticOct 30, 20171 votes

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That is my point, how can you get CS if you are ganking lanes to help them get ahead, which is what a jungler should be doing.

Just keep focusing towards getting better with it mane dont worry, you'll get the hang of a good jungle routine where you can gank and steal a couple enemy camps, etc. As a jungle main I'll say it's not easy swapping your routine or working towards mixing something else in but you'll pick up on it

Whats A RivOct 30, 20171 votes

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That is my point, how can you get CS if you are ganking lanes to help them get ahead, which is what a jungler should be doing.

This is basic jungle patching you farm in an order, then gank, then basically repeat all game, farming AND GANKING not camping all lanes with 10 cs

e46 FanaticOct 30, 20171 votes

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Cs

11 level 7s here with the junglers being Nidalee JarvanIV Graves Gragas Hecarim not sure about support but any role other than support I do know you want CS. cs cs cs. Typically if you want an S grade you just want a positive kd/nice kill participation and at least 250 cs.

WestwrdOct 30, 20171 votes

You guys are missing a huge point of my post. The game was 22 min long, not a lot of time to jungle cs and gank. and the Illaoi top lane went 8-7-2 and got an S, if i had not been ganking top to save the lane he would have been way behind. And if they base it off raw cs numbers then a golem counts the same as a caster minion which is messed up.

RedPanndaOct 30, 20172 votes

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You guys are missing a huge point of my post. The game was 22 min long, not a lot of time to jungle cs and gank. and the Illaoi top lane went 8-7-2 and got an S, if i had not been ganking top to save the lane he would have been way behind. And if they base it off raw cs numbers then a golem counts the same as a caster minion which is messed up.

Popularity of the character has a massive part of it. I had an insane game with Yi where I just went bananas and carried the entire match. Got an S- because I only had 180 something CS when I had 90% kill participation and completely controlled objectives.

If I had half those stats on say Poppy I would probably have gotten an S++ Double Triple Macchiato. It is really stupid but the game actively encourages you to play with bad champs to get easy S's. I see off meta supports getting S's all the time playing absolutely average and hardly warding.

ZapMyHeartOct 30, 20171 votes

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You guys are missing a huge point of my post. The game was 22 min long, not a lot of time to jungle cs and gank. and the Illaoi top lane went 8-7-2 and got an S, if i had not been ganking top to save the lane he would have been way behind. And if they base it off raw cs numbers then a golem counts the same as a caster minion which is messed up.

Mmm, junglers should have about half of what laners should get, so at 10 min (where 100 lane minions for CS is considered perfect), you should be at ~50CS and 20min, you should be at ~100CS.

Poppy farms pretty easily after a few levels in, so you should be counter jungling to take the enemy farm to boost up your own after a fight is won.

WestwrdOct 31, 20171 votes

I had 66 cs at 20 he had 140

ZapMyHeartOct 31, 20171 votes

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I had 66 cs at 20 he had 140

Illaoi can't farm well, so take that into consideration. Whereas Poppy can.

ŚtrongMentalNov 2, 20171 votes

to get an S (s-, etc) you should have 80-85 cs by 20, no excuses, that is the sole reason you got an A... spend more time csing, less time idling...

step 1: Clear all camps, step 2: Gank mid FIRST... (on your way to the gank, check other lanes, are they pushed in or out) step 3: if you have the health, gank another lane (preferably one that has been pushed into your turret) step 4: cs... Rinse and repeat (this doesnt include backing, buying, etc)

MiantaOct 30, 20171 votes

A high CS always works out in the end, but that doesn't mean "sit in lane and steal your teammates CS". Rather, focus on invading often. Dont waste a single second, farm where you can. If your teammate dies, hold the lane & last hit what's going to get killed anyway. Also: Use wards. Clear wards. Get a high kill participation score. Don't die. Get many objectives. Be involved in tower kills. Amass a lot of gold. Its not all about KDAs, nor are you required to have 200+ cs. Creep scores just boost your chances.

DepressedAhriNov 2, 20171 votes

Because Illaoi is a shit champion that doesn't go positive normally.

An S rank is determined by the scores of other players, in your elo, playing the same champ, in the same role. (I heard Poppy in the comments) Poppy rofl stomps in lower elos, and can go 11/0 in a 20 minute game easily.

So Poppy has a higher standard than Illaoi does, making it harder to earn that S rank.

EliassSoulAug 16, 20191 votes

It makes no sense, and cs does not count, I have screenshots of a game where I beat the adc in every single Stat, I do more dmg I get the same amount of towers plus one inhibitor I get more cs I get more gold, I get the same amount of kills and assist and we die once both of us but she gets an s and I don't.

Kevin120499Nov 30, 20191 votes

I feel you bud. I got 22/1/9 with Eve and still got A+

LaphinJan 15, 20201 votes

welp thats riot for you; they give more importance to farming then for killing or helping the team kill. Man i had so many games with 15/2/15, 19/5/11,... and so much more examples like that that ive come to the point where i just gave up and ignore the fact that ill never get that one last mastery 6 token to put warwick at 7.