nerfing fizz

filthy birtch·Dec 22, 2014·6 votes·1,274 views

i think fizz is to OP if you consider how less skill he require's they should nerf his damage or give him more cooldown.

21 Comments

RWCJDec 22, 20143 votes

Try Veigar and remember Fizz's pole makes him untargetable not invulnerable.

FyshinaTuxDec 22, 20141 votes

The only thing he's vulnerable to is something that is already on him (like Ignite, or Swain's Bird lazer, or Veigar's Stu..... ooOOOOHHHH I see what you did there Kappa) .

stealthfox94Dec 23, 20145 votes

Fizz poops on Veigar

Soybean16Dec 23, 20141 votes

Its true, I love it when im fizz and they pick a veigar mid because they think he will counter me

stealthfox94Dec 24, 20141 votes

I'm not sure why anyone would think Veigar would counter Fizz

stealthfox94Dec 23, 20143 votes

He's strong yeah but he does have some down sides, bad early game mana hungry, he has to instagib people to remain relevant in teamfights, poor waveclear untill mid game, and his only ranged ability is his ult.

Leti the YetiDec 23, 20141 votes

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He's strong yeah but he does have some down sides, bad early game mana hungry, he has to instagib people to remain relevant in teamfights, poor waveclear untill mid game, and his only ranged ability is his ult.

i dont believe down sides are downsides if it never really hindered anyone

stealthfox94Dec 23, 20143 votes

Except these can hinder you. That's kind of the definition of a downside.

Soybean16Dec 22, 20142 votes

Please don't, I main fizz :D, but to be fair, he is a pretty powerful champ. If you have trouble with him, consider a banshees veil or zyhonas hourglass. The banshees veil passive will neglect all the damage from his first ability, and greatly reduce the damage from the following ones. The zyhonas can take away all the damage from his burst if he tries to use multiple abilities at once

Epilogue of LifeDec 23, 20141 votes

so ADC and mid laners all rush Banshee's to not die from fizz....that's so much worse than Zed, at least Zhonya's and Scimitar offer great offense stats...

DedriusDec 23, 20142 votes

The major problem I have with fizz is the CD on his E, which is something like 5 seconds at 40% CDR. It is stupid that he can jump on top of you with E, blow you up, and jump right back out with E again with pretty low risk. There are plenty of assassins with the same amount of burst as him but the ability for him to have that burst and be that safe isn't fun to play against.

The fact that he can go 0-4 then get 2 kills and be ahead of everyone again is also annoying to deal with.

FyshinaTuxDec 23, 20142 votes

Sounds like Yasuo, or Zed, or Akali, Katarina... hmm...

Pretty much every assassin is described by your last statement...

Lotto123Dec 23, 20142 votes

Not even lol Kat is so much easier to gank than Fizz early game too, so there's that Yasuo doesn't compare to fizz at all, akali and zed yeah they're pretty op too All the people you named except Yasuo are constantly banned in draft for a reason

Ayame IsakiDec 23, 20142 votes

Akali has no escape. If you don't die, she dies. Her ULT cannot target friendlies or wards. Everyone else I agree with.

FyshinaTuxDec 23, 20143 votes

I've seen Akali's do magical things with her ult and minion waves, the shroud is nice for the as well.

Ayame IsakiDec 24, 20142 votes

Oh certainly! If you commit behind enemy lines, the enemy lines provide an escape route if you are smart. Shroud isn't helpful against champs that understand you and have AoE or that have pink wards. But sometimes, yeah, shroud can save you.

shadecrapperJan 28, 20152 votes

"less skill he requires" wtf? He's pretty hard to play

Maximum ZileanDec 23, 20141 votes

Don't know if this still applies, but awhile ago Ryze was considered Fizz's worst nightmare. Can't troll pole that rune prison due to no delay or cast time.

stealthfox94Dec 23, 20141 votes

I always found Ryze to be an overrated counter, sure you can't dodge the prison, but once that's down it's not that hard to burst Ryze down.

FyshinaTuxDec 23, 20141 votes

Actually, I troll poled his Rune Prison on quite a few occasions... just required knowledge of his RP range (I also played Ryze at the time, so that made it easier), and GREAT prediction abilities (getting lucky by other people's standards).

I've also Troll Poled Darius and Skarner ults on multiple occasions, as well as a few other select "hard ones" to dodge.