like I really miss the old system with the runes and skill tree that was given before champs at more flexibility and the game was way more fun any way of doing a sub server were people who enjoyed league before when it was fun to have the runes back?
Kovorix24 votesProbably not because then riot would need to admit that their course they take the game sux when everyone switches to classic.
ChiefDovahkin1 votesProbably not because then riot would need to admit that their course they take the game sux when everyone switches to classic.
It's funny because everyone would, simpler league is better league. When there were less mechanics, true outplay shined and straight up felt better.
Makarakarn1 votesProbably not because then riot would need to admit that their course they take the game sux when everyone switches to classic.
Except that moment when super old league wasn't balanced either : ^)
Kovorix1 votesThat is to a degree right. But you didn't die in less then 1 second for the most times.
Romans VI XXIII16 votesYES with Old runes masteries and the pre reworked champs! The Glorie days!!
Altonat6 voteslike I really miss the old system with the runes and skill tree that was given before champs at more flexibility and the game was way more fun any way of doing a sub server were people who enjoyed league before when it was fun to have the runes back?
Ugh, just give us the old runes and masteries back, but make them free. How fucking hard is that to do?
preternatural3 votesjust gotta remove teleport from the game if people want it to be fun.
5 Dollar Holler21 votesjust gotta remove
teleportflash from the game if people want it to be fun.
Fixed
preternatural3 votes[{quoted}](name=5 Dollar Holler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:40:15.210+0000)
Fixed
you weren't here before teleport got popular in top lane no doubt.
GigglesO6 votesYou weren't here for revive teleport meta...
Some of the most fun shit I've ever had.
preternatural2 votesYou weren't here for revive teleport meta...
Some of the most fun shit I've ever had.
i was.
FSRER9 votesjust gotta remove teleport from the game if people want it to be fun.
Teleport has already been nerfed to the fucking ground (because of ADC's taking it) and ignite buffed into a spell replacing barrier and exhaust because of the pure damage it gives.
preternatural3 votesTeleport has already been nerfed to the fucking ground (because of ADC's taking it) and ignite buffed into a spell replacing barrier and exhaust because of the pure damage it gives.
nerfing teleport doesn't matter when it's entire concept looms anti-fun over the game.
Sailor Mint9 votesIf it wasn't for Teleport, you'd basically be forced to ARAM every game as it wouldn't be safe to send anyone bot lane with Baron alive.
You could get away with it back in the day because people didn't systematically start Baron the second someone showed up bot lane (people were pretty bad back then). Also, while it gives less combat stats than old Baron, new Baron is much better at actually taking down structures and closing games.
you weren't here before teleport got popular in top lane no doubt.
You're not going back to days of 1v1 Bruisers while the remaining players play a 4v4.
preternatural2 votes[{quoted}](name=Sailor Mint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T16:35:11.178+0000)
If it wasn't for Teleport, you'd basically be forced to ARAM every game as it wouldn't be safe to send anyone bot lane with Baron alive.
You could get away with it back in the day because people didn't systematically start Baron the second someone showed up bot lane (people were pretty bad back then). Also, while it gives less combat stats than old Baron, new Baron is much better at actually taking down structures and closing games.
Back when Top lane irrelevant?
it's called wave management, which people don't have these days because teleport drained all their knowledge.
Sailor Mint7 votesThat wasn't particularly relevant in the grand scheme of things.
Season 2 was a clusterfuck of ARAM 5v5 teamfights until it shifted towards assassins.
Season 3 and 4 were assassin dominated metas where games were won by picking off the underleveled support with no items and taking Baron in the powerplay.
Top lane started being relevant when Teleport became widespread.
preternatural2 votes[{quoted}](name=Sailor Mint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T16:49:37.309+0000)
That wasn't particularly relevant in the grand scheme of things.
Season 2 was a clusterfuck of ARAM 5v5 teamfights until it shifted towards assassins.
Season 3 and 4 were assassin dominated metas where games were won by picking off the underleveled support with no items and taking Baron in the powerplay.Top lane started being relevant when Teleport became widespread.
top lane was relevant long before that otherwise the nerf irelia memes never take off.
aw34h4whhj5 votesYou mean flash? Flash is cancer
preternatural2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ebola Genocide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-09-08T19:38:30.904+0000)
You mean flash? Flash is cancer
no flash is fine, it's what makes the gameplay good.
WAZZZUP5002 votesThis is actually mega false, flash is super broken and the only reason it's not nerfed is because anyone can take it. Early game is almost always decided by who has or doesnt have flash. That's way less healthy than tp.
preternatural2 votesThis is actually mega false, flash is super broken and the only reason it's not nerfed is because anyone can take it. Early game is almost always decided by who has or doesnt have flash. That's way less healthy than tp.
dude, teleport removes skillgaps, flash extends them. see the difference? you guys moaning about flash probably just get outplayed daily with some anime type of plays.
WAZZZUP5001 votesTeleport increases macro, flash increases micro. I guess it just depends on what you care about more: playing as a team or making flashy plays.
Jenivie1 votesi agree ;x
Deceased Kebab3 votesI would like to see a classic LOL, without bullshit champs with stealth. Hyper mobile champs must go away also. While we are at it, also remove plants from the jungle, also the ability to see if a jungle camp is up, and remove the honey fruit from the river, and the scuttle crab. Also remove the rift herald, and the give us back the old useless drake that no one cared about.
Let us have a game based on skills, and not a game based on "i can get away with bad positioning, because i have stealth, or i have 300 dashes". And dear Riot if you are reading this, NO we do not need more bullshit champs in this game, so please stop making 10 new champs a year, make skins, and fix bugs.
Bârd3 votesLeague should have a rollback system like Minecraft.
You can download the game at any version through a dropdown menu to play custom matches, but the matchmaking servers only support the latest version.
LAN Party on Patch 4.20 anybody?
True Garen3 votesRunes Reforged was a mistake.
hhaavviikk2 votes[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-09-09T08:44:26.297+0000)
Runes Reforged was a mistake.
I swear the only reason they kept calling them runes eventhough it's basically masteries is so they can have an excuse to keep runepages around, I've got 20 runepages, I've got 0 use for them now, I only need 1 runepage to change shit around
WAZZZUP5002 votesI mean i know the current system is the cause of a lot of balance issues, but i honestly think its more fun than the old runes. There's still a lot of interesting stuff you can do with runes reforged. Plus, it fits into the lore with the world runes.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesAdditionally, it is way more beginner friendly.
Before, you had to farm for an eternity to get all the runes to be able to truly customize. Now everyone gets them all for free. And I think that the new system is way more intuitive. I would have loved if this new system would have been a thing already when I started playing this game.
Midg3t2 votes[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-09-09T11:06:16.482+0000)
Additionally, it is way more beginner friendly.
Before, you had to farm for an eternity to get all the runes to be able to truly customize. Now everyone gets them all for free. And I think that the new system is way more intuitive. I would have loved if this new system would have been a thing already when I started playing this game.
Which is a bad thing because players nowadays can get in ranked with less experience. Back then you needed IP for champs, runes and rune pages. Which made you play more games. More games played means more game experience gained.
Nowadays you get sooo much BE you dont have to worry about playing extra normal games past lvl 30 to be able to afford champs required for ranked. And having preset runes means that you dont even have to experiment with custom rune setups.
tl;dr the game is dumbed down.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesAnd what's exactly the problem with people being able to enter ranked earlier? When they lack game experience, they will simply end up in the fitting environment: iron and bronze.
Enabling players to start collecting champions earlier, over "boring, yet required stuff" like runes and runepages, is a plus in my eyes. And not having to experiment with custom rune setups is also not a bad thing. Not everyone likes to theorycraft all this stuff and fine-tune every little detail.
My brother, for example, never enjoyed this stuff, but he knows that I do. So many times, my brother simply told me what he wants to play and then asked me to customise builds for him (not in League of Legends, it was another game, but still). If there are players who don't enjoy this stuff, but still want to play for fun, then just let them.
Midg3t2 votes[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qw4AEAey,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-09T11:49:55.843+0000)
And what's exactly the problem with people being able to enter ranked earlier? When they lack game experience, they will simply end up in the fitting environment: iron and bronze.
Except they dont, their starting MMR is around silver/gold. And even if they somehow fall in bronze the LP gains are so high you can get out in a few games (the guy i know is deranking his smurf, b4 atm and gets 36 LP per win while having a lil bit above 20% wr)
Enabling players to start collecting champions earlier, over "boring, yet required stuff" like runes and runepages, is a plus in my eyes.
Again, it removes the need to play norms after lvl 30. And im not talking like "new players have slightly easier time collecting champs". I mean they can buy enough champs for ranked on lvl 10. Atm im lvl 14 and have 15k+ BE. Literally you can effortlessly get so much shit. EDIT: this is how much BE i have on my smurf atm http://prntscr.com/p3ye11
And not having to experiment with custom rune setups is also not a bad thing. Not everyone likes to theorycraft all this stuff and fine-tune every little detail.
Its not about liking or not liking to experiment, its about learning.
My brother, for example, never enjoyed this stuff, but he knows that I do. So many times, my brother simply told me what he wants to play and then asked me to customise builds for him (not in League of Legends, it was another game, but still). If there are players who don't enjoy this stuff, but still want to play for fun, then just let them.
Your brother is the perfect example of previous paragraph. Some1 wont bother with learning how to setup his runes., and when they find themselves in those situations where they need to know rune setup, they'll shit themselves.
And those who're playing 4fun will come in ranked and ruin the game for us who want to climb. Thats why this new system is bad.
Ionian Vulpix2 votesSure. Have S3 Kassadin back. Or Ult bot Warwick. Ooh, let's bring back the Juggernaut rework, immediate post release!
This game has always been flawed. People just complain about it more now because they're getting bored.
Gothendel1 votesI don't think it would happen due to them having to retrieve old client files and put up the old client for download & that some champions would not be able to be in it.
[zombie-brand-clap]
OtterlyLost1 votesProbably not, no. Riot have mentioned that they don't have the assets for old champions and such saved anywhere, apparently.
A Swarm of Koala1 votesYou know, I wonder if devs avoid classic systems because they don't want to find out everyone prefers the old stuff. Gotta be embarrassing to have a massive amount of folks say the game used to be better and then they prove it by playing the old stuff more.
9mm Valentine1 votesOld Talon....... I just got some major emotional feelings.<3 I wasn't even young when I started playing but that era was truly a better time.
TrueCalamity1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWS8dRpAZoM when you had fun with the runes and doing shit in the game making an assassin more tanky making a support a fighter now everything is stuck the way ritos wants it to be.... this was from the guys that had a the game is always flawed but im sorry ap yi was fucking jokes back in the day and was funny to play and so was the old warwick when ulti can only 1 target and you didnt blow it right away and be behind the enemy line for no reason cuz you just died
Sinister Anubis1 votesHonestly power creep and mobility creep needs to be rolled back and certain champions need deleted. I'm looking at 
. There is one or more aspects to those champions kits that just need to go. They are antifun champions and just sux to play vs.
ZaFishbone1 votesRiot has admitted to having dumped classic code, so no. They literally don't have it anymore.