What are the chances?

Plaisirs·May 13, 2015·1 votes·653 views

So I just played a ranked game in Silver, and since the first three minutes of the game they seemed to have complete and absolute control of our jungle. They knew exactly where our jungler was, at all times. I checked their inventories constantly because I couldn't believe it, and they literally did not have any stealth or vision wards, apart from their trinkets. I spent so much time just sweeping the jungle and I was only able to find 3 wards. 35 minute game, and only 3 wards. And they seemed to know exactly where everybody was. Even when I had just looked for wards and there weren't any, they came straight up to us in the middle of our jungle. I do not want to call this, and I really want to believe that my team was just inferior but it really feels like these people were using some kind of vision cheat. Is it even possible to have that much vision of the enemy jungle at such an early time?

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5000000000000000May 13, 20151 votes

It's probably possible to guess where your jungler is because for early clears, there are only few available paths the jungler can take (given that they don't gank at level 2 or counterjungle). What exactly was happening? Was the enemy jungler counterjungling a lot? Putting lane pressure when the jungler was on the other side?

PlaisirsMay 13, 20151 votes

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It's probably possible to guess where your jungler is because for early clears, there are only few available paths the jungler can take (given that they don't gank at level 2 or counterjungle). What exactly was happening? Was the enemy jungler counterjungling a lot? Putting lane pressure when the jungler was on the other side?

My jungler started red, he then goes to his blue. Their top laner had been farming, and when my jungler got to his blue their top laner decides to go to his blue to kill him and take his buff. I thought, ok bad luck. Our jungler then decides to take the scuttle around top lane, their top laner, their jungler and their mid laner all go to kill him. I've been a support main for a year so I kind of know when it's safe to be aggressive and when it isn't. I decided to be a little aggressive and all of a sudden their top laner comes from behind and kills us. Their top laner, their mid laner and their jungler were most of the time together, they always knew where we were even though I had just sweeped and there weren't any wards. Our jungler would have the vision buff and there were no wards, yet they knew where he was. Funny thing is, if they weren't so far ahead, we still had better team fights than them, but a fed Xin Zhao and Hecarim are pretty hard to handle when you're behind.

5000000000000000May 13, 20151 votes

And this happened on solo/duo queue? This might even be one of those cases where more than two people queue up for ranked solo/duo.

Either that, or they got really lucky early and snowballed. Did anything like that happen after first few minutes?

PlaisirsMay 13, 20151 votes

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And this happened on solo/duo queue? This might even be one of those cases where more than two people queue up for ranked solo/duo.

Either that, or they got really lucky early and snowballed. Did anything like that happen after first few minutes?

This happened in duo queue, Silver 4-2. I'm a pretty smart girl and I like analyzing my games a lot. Most of the people I play with are Platinum - Diamond, I even played with a Challenger dude in my team once, he relied on me to follow me around and make plays together. I also know when to accept I simply got completely outplayed, I know when to accept my team wasn't as good as our enemy, I know when I play badly and I let my teammates know so. But seriously, they knew EXACTLY where everybody was within the first 5 minutes of the game. I didn't know Silver players were so good placing wards and controlling vision. I felt like an unranked player playing against TSM. I've played against really well organized teams in solo queue, but this was just beyond that. Literally sweeped every spot, no wards, yet they ran to abuse us knowing exactly where we were. Makes no sense to me.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 13, 20151 votes

Before spamming sightstone and enemy missing pings, Map Awareness and chatting "MIA" actually was really important. Sometimes, I'd know that Lee Sin would start red and where he'd be and at what time. By then I'd come in, take a free kill and get red buff. By a several seconds after I know he'd start blue, I'd gank the opposite side of him so he couldn't respond. My playstyle is an old one, but it's still very effective.

This is the wrong board for what you wrote.

PlaisirsMay 13, 20151 votes

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Before spamming sightstone and enemy missing pings, Map Awareness and chatting "MIA" actually was really important. Sometimes, I'd know that Lee Sin would start red and where he'd be and at what time. By then I'd come in, take a free kill and get red buff. By a several seconds after I know he'd start blue, I'd gank the opposite side of him so he couldn't respond. My playstyle is an old one, but it's still very effective.

This is the wrong board for what you wrote.

I wish you had been in that game, then you'd probably understand. Thanks for your reply though!

UberAffeMay 13, 20151 votes

I mean technically it is possible, I believe everyone's client receives the position and ability use information of every other champion. Assuming that does happen it's possible to intercept the data and have it display somewhere else and then send the data back to your client.

The odds of them actually having done that are extremely slim though.