@Meddler Any plans for Ezreal's Essence Flux?

YouOnlyLikeOreo··9 votes·1,807 views

You stated you'd give it some changes, so AD Ezreal wouldn't find it lackluster months ago.

Any plans on it currently?

Will you test something soon? Kinda annoying to see one of your spells completely worthless except for Tear stacks or buffing allies' attack speed :/

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Kouga3 votes

I try not to pull the "As an X main" but Ezreal has a soft spot for me. I've been playing him since his release and I've watched every buff and nerf with bated breath. So, as an Ezreal main...

...I think its a testament to Ezreal's (other) strengths that even having 0 CC of any kind, and having 1 (basically) useless spell, he's still as good a Champ as he is. That said the distribution of his power budget is pretty skewed, and he suffers from a major identity crisis. Is he AD or AP? He can be either one, really, but never shines very well if he tries to do both. If he's AD, he suffers from an inefficient Essence Flux (not 100% useless since yes, he can buff himself and it does add a little damage) and his AP scalings are underutilized (although since he builds TF he at least uses it, a little). If he's AP, his passive becomes useless, and his AD scaling are then under-utilized. And Essence Flux, which is his best early game AP tool (wide, fairly long, goes through minions, great AP ratio) will tax his mana pool heavily, perhaps too much for it to be a particularly strong route to go.

Even within AD Ezreal only, he still has a little bit of a crisis. He's not a standard AA-based rADC, because Ezreal doesn't scale as well with crits. He's not meant to be a close range 1v1 duelist like Vayne, rather he's meant to kite, poke, harass, and snipe from afar. They took away his enemy AS debuff which was one of this best tools against the enemy ADC. Yet his passive still pushes him to want to AA and duel, since the stacks are temporary and directly buff his close range game. And since his Q, his main kiting tool, doesn't crit he doesn't have the same power curve and even role as your late game hyper carries.

Ezreal could be in Ashe's camp as a "Support-Carry" if they gave some better utility back to his W to make it more appealing. An AS buff is great for taking down towers but since you're usually the dominant AD on the team, you're the only one that really wants the buff. But again, he also doesn't like being in that close of range.

To further complicate things, Ezreal used to be considered the pentagon of "high mobility, ranged AD", but he's not really high mobility by today's standards. He has one mobility ability and 0 CC. Admittedly, as mobility options go, Arcane Gate is a great one.

Instead, I'd rather see his passive be changed to something like a stacking Movespeed boost, instead of Attack Speed, since it would further complement his mobile, snipey, harassing gameplay and focus more on his kiting. His Essence Flux could do something similar; give allies an MS boost instead of an AS boost, and slow enemies. Changing these two abilities to focus on his kiting and speed, while not giving him an oppressive amount of mobility and put him more comfortably into the zone of "Support-Carry", which was his original design (back when Essence Flux also had a HEAL), while also making his entire play pattern more cohesive.

Audiomancy2 votes

Arcane Shifting into the path of your own Essence Flux immediately after casting it will apply the attack speed buff to you, as well as giving you a stack of Rising Spell Force.

The more you know.

YouOnlyLikeOreo2 votes

If you want to sound smart, at least, read the fucking discussion.

Audiomancy3 votes

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If you want to sound smart, at least, read the fucking discussion.

You must be fun at parties.

Jiberamu1 votes

ezreal would be dumb broken if it was buffed, its actually good if you know how to use it. watch some korean games

ZileanUltJesusOP1 votes

dumb broken? lol wut

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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ezreal would be dumb broken if it was buffed, its actually good if you know how to use it. watch some korean games

"Watch some Korean games"

Dude, what are you saying?

Essence Flux is purely dog shit on AD Ezreal in a teamfight. Its damage is shitty, has no impacts on the fight or anything (except to give yourself or your allies attack speed, but yo have to E through it, costing you almost 150 Mana and your escape).

It's useless on AD Ez. Meddler said they would give it something, so AD Ez would like to use it in fights.

Jiberamu1 votes

your bronze 5 view on how ezreal is played is very wrong.

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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your bronze 5 view on how ezreal is played is very wrong.

That's my main account

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ezreal%20Wright

Don't you think it's a bit arrogant for you to tell me I'm Bronze V? :)

randyrancher1 votes

Uhh, sorry to butt in but why do you have a bronze 5 smurf with so many games if you are d5?

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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Uhh, sorry to butt in but why do you have a bronze 5 smurf with so many games if you are d5?

My main is banned on the Boards.

Had to use my troll account.

I use this account when I need to relax and troll in ranked (and practice stuff I don't normally play).

Miraweave1 votes

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Uhh, sorry to butt in but why do you have a bronze 5 smurf with so many games if you are d5?

I mean, that actually is ezreal wright. I've played with him.

Newbert Newman1 votes

He probably just means that you can get 3 stacks of his passive up instantly in a fight using SF, however you're correct that the mana cost required for this seems overpriced, as the damage is weak.

TBH my personal favorite buff to Ez would be to let spell flux mark your enemy, and any arcane shift prioritizes marked enemies. this would add some reliability to his kit. Just don't know if that would break AP ez however lol.

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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He probably just means that you can get 3 stacks of his passive up instantly in a fight using SF, however you're correct that the mana cost required for this seems overpriced, as the damage is weak.

TBH my personal favorite buff to Ez would be to let spell flux mark your enemy, and any arcane shift prioritizes marked enemies. this would add some reliability to his kit. Just don't know if that would break AP ez however lol.

Yeah, I once proposed this buff to Riot, but it would be more of a buff to AP Ezreal than AD Ezreal :/

Newbert Newman1 votes

Ah nice lol, maybe i heard it from you then. Don't think I came up with that idea on my own lol I just remember thinking it would be cool everytime I play AD Ez.

Do you have any other ideas on how to buff AD Ez?

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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Ah nice lol, maybe i heard it from you then. Don't think I came up with that idea on my own lol I just remember thinking it would be cool everytime I play AD Ez.

Do you have any other ideas on how to buff AD Ez?

Maybe it could apply a mark which triggers when hitting a basic attack or hitting your Q, dealing bonus magic damage based on their current HP

For example, there's the magic damage from the projectile, but it now applies a mark scaling with Bonus AD and AP + a small current hp damage.

The numbers could be something like 5/6/7/8/9% current HP + 40% Bonus AD + 40% AP

I also had an idea about making Ezreal chooses either if he wants to be a Marksman or a Mage in the beginning of the game, changing his kit to whoever path he chose.

Lemme find the thread tho

Here's the link :)

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/tsLXEfuo-my-personal-ideas-for-a-potential-ezreal-rework

Newbert Newman1 votes

That would be really fun........having a choice at the beginning of the game like that. Definitely could see that working.

kile1471 votes

It offers slight damage and some utility, and allows him to build his passive. It's in pretty much the same place as Lucian W. If they buff anything about it I think more utility and interaction with the rest of his kit could be cool. Doing something like where hitting a champ would mark them and autoing (or Qing) them would expend the mark and give Ezreal the AS steroid.

DanofDemacia1 votes

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YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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It strikes me as ad that ezreal for an ad caster is a pretty shitty one lol. He has no as steriods ad steroids nothing to make him a regualr adc. If u want an ad caster go graves i dont get why his scaling is so bad

Uuhh... Ezreal has a 90% attack speed steroid.

Newbert Newman1 votes

Lol

Kouga2 votes

50%, and only after stacking it up. Similar play pattern to Varus, where his overall output will ramp up over the course of a fight, but makes it less reliable in those "Oh Shit" situations. Which, as a ranged poking champ, is fine.

EDIT: That is based on his passive. He does have his W self-buff, but its so situational and generally ill-advised that I hardly count it as part of his overall play pattern.

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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50%, and only after stacking it up. Similar play pattern to Varus, where his overall output will ramp up over the course of a fight, but makes it less reliable in those "Oh Shit" situations. Which, as a ranged poking champ, is fine.

I've taken into account the attack speed from his W, so it makes 90%.

But yeah, it would be really nice if they gave something to his W which emphasis his current strengths instead of giving him new strengths.

Kouga1 votes

Yeah as soon as I typed that I realized what you meant.

Still, not exactly reliable, and its more of a neat 'trick' than part of his actual kit design. They basically just threw him a bone with they gave him that buff.

qetzel1 votes

Ez seems fairly strong at the moment - certainly not pick ban, but still strong.

As such, I doubt we will be seeing anything done to his W. It could easily push him over the edge. Rebalancing him around a new W would take quite a lot of time and resources which could be better spent on other champions or projects (who quite frankly need it more).

YouOnlyLikeOreo1 votes

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Ez seems fairly strong at the moment - certainly not pick ban, but still strong.

As such, I doubt we will be seeing anything done to his W. It could easily push him over the edge. Rebalancing him around a new W would take quite a lot of time and resources which could be better spent on other champions or projects (who quite frankly need it more).

Or they could, you know, revert the Q buff and buff his W instead

idk

qetzel1 votes

I am not sure that would be enough.

The change from a useless ability to a useful ability is a much larger change than a 0.1 AD ratio. Think "What is the least useful an ability can be for me to consider it not worthless?". I can guarantee it is worth more than a 0.1 attack ratio.

Anbaric1 votes

Why not make his W buff himself just by casting it, instead of having to jump into it somehow?

Wînter Fox1 votes

Just make it wider and deal damage to whatever it passes through - including minions. Like a mini ult

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