These item requests might just be stupid but idk

majorashash·Aug 24, 2017·2 votes·208 views

an item for mages with QSS active and a GA item for mages? Idk if that is a good idea though. Just seeing what you guys think

7 Comments

Meep ManAug 24, 20172 votes

I think the second one can't exist while Zhonya's is a thing. It would make a Mage/AP champion too long to kill and would make Assassins useless.

majorashashAug 24, 20171 votes

I totally agree here. I didnt even think about that. I might just like to see better defensive items for mages. I left for a year and when I came back a lot of the defensive items you could build as a mage had been kind of ruined. they took away the entire health component of item 3102 , shaved off 200 hp from item 3116 ,changed GA to an AD item with less armor, and completely changed abyssal scepter into a new item. So when I came back to league it felt like they kind of fucked AP itemization quite a bit. Not saying the changed items are bad, just they are useful for different champs. Like I used to get abyssal scepter on kat but now the abyssal mask is SO inefficient gold-wise because she is manaless. Just the little things that confused me about the changes.

LittleOakAug 24, 20171 votes

I would love a GA item for mages, but seeing as though you have mages like Ahri who have bursts on 5 second cooldowns, get a 2.5 second stasis from Zhonya's, and then be able to burst down someone again and then get a 4 second revive in and have the opportuniy to burst down someone else scares me a little. Clearly, it's not a perfect science but it is worrisome for an ADC/Squishy mid laner. I would love to see a QSS item though.. idk. The team would just need to provide more CC in their comp.

majorashashAug 24, 20171 votes

well there USED to be a GA item that was viable for mages to build. I left for a year and a half and came back and they gutted the item then added AD to it so its almost stupid to build it on any AP champs except Katarina because she actually has AD ratios. I might just want something that gives them better survival stats, like moonflair spellblade is always nice on Twisted Treeline.

LittleOakAug 24, 20171 votes

Lol you found the right summoner to discuss with. I LOVE Twisted Treeline. I think it's actually more fun than the regular 5v5 game. In terms of Moonflair Spellblade, I feel like the need to change that item around and maybe split it into two separate items. My personal dream would be keep the item the same but change the name to Moonflair Crown or some shit, indicating it's not a fully offensive item, but one for tankier AP team leaders (Galio, Maokai, Cho'gath, Malphite, Mordekaiser, Nasus, Nunu, Rumble, Sej, Singed, Swain, Etc.). Effectively a tank item that also offers a little damage stat like it is now. THEN implement a new Moonflair Spellblade that gives something along the lines of AD and AP, plus a GA effect, possibly built from B.F. Sword and Sheen or Aether Wisp? I feel like if it is build out of all three, it would be overloaded/a better Lich Bane. Putting the move speed, plus mana, plus CDR, plus Spellblade, and AD, AP, and a GA effect is way too good. I would say Aether Wisp+B.F. Sword. Give it 65AD, 65AP, 7% move speed, and the GA effect would SEEM fair (from my limited knowledge of item balancing).

Nut on my ButtAug 24, 20171 votes

A QSS would be nice since summoner 1 doesn't work for Malzahar and his safe waveclear can easily extend games to the point where item 3140 becomes an inefficient item to slot.

majorashashAug 24, 20171 votes

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A QSS would be nice since doesn't work for and his safe waveclear can easily extend games to the point where becomes an inefficient item to slot.

this is the exact kind of thing I was thinking since he is usually laning against mages if he isn't jungle. When you have to get QSS just for malz you get behind in your normal build and it honestly makes me think why is cleanse even a thing anymore lol