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Armor build on Ekko doesn't seem very effective.

Vayne 24·12/16/2016, 9:10:36 AM·2 votes·722 views

I just played a game as Ekko , top lane, against an AD comp team:

My team was:

We were down at around 20 minutes and had no tank so I decided to go with a tankier build rather than full AP. I got:

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The only person on the other team with any sort of armor pen was Lee Sin who had a Black Cleaver, other than that it was flat AD across the board (except Lux). For the most part this build worked pretty well for me but at one point I traded with Lee Sin 1v1, both at full build, and noticed that he chunked like 1/4 of my health with a Q/E combo. I disengaged afterwards but it didn't seem like my armor was very effective. I'm sure if i had more of an AP build I would have out-traded him, but since I chose to go with a defensive, bruiser build, I would expect to be able to last longer in a 1v1 than that. Obviously there were other instances throughout the game that I noticed this same stuff, but it wasn't so clear in teamfights.

I haven't gone and looked up exactly how armor and armor pen work so I suppose maybe I'm misinformed but I would think that +230 armor would shield more than it did. Anyone have any answers for me?

5 Comments

Arìes Wínd12/16/2016, 9:28:37 AM1 votes

Really weak hp pool youth got here against fiora who deal pure %hp DMg if you died to here a lot there is not need to explain more !

AcidTheWarlock12/16/2016, 10:17:36 AM1 votes

You wanna see a stupid Ekko build?!

This was from yesterday: item 3047 item 3157 item 3115 item 3146 item 3001 item 3165

I just splitpushed the whole time. Took about 7 or 8 structures in total.

It was fabulous.

Spoofghoul12/16/2016, 1:50:24 PM1 votes

well building alot of armor is like building a lot of attackspeed

on its own its not that effective, you would need additional on hits or ad or crits etc

it's the same for armor, you want additional hp

then again even with hp armor does feel weak i noticed this a long time ago already it doesn't really stop you from getting blown up even with the hp

thats why currently when i want to play tanks i pick something like Sion or Braum or Alistar or Yorick( although he isnt a true tank)

They have a 3th option, go moderate defenses build a crapton of hp AND hp regen, or in yoricks case also some lifesteal since it works on his ghouls

You see they can all benefit a lot from health regen and they can get a lot of health in addition to a moderate amount of armor You really don't need more then 200 because armorpen would just make it a wasted stat, if i get 160-200 armor im good to go then i need the health to back it up and then i also get piles of sustain from healthregen In addition those tanks have other tank steroids and tricks to use, sion has his shield he can use to block damage and he is good at zoning to prevent damage taken, alistar has his ultimate and he can be very disruptive, braum has additional tank steroids like his shield and temporary armor/mr and lifesteal works on yoricks ghouls so i grab warlords and another lifesteal item so i can heal insane amounts

You see you need tank steroids and ways to zone people off or dirupt their damage output and then you get health, healthregen and resistances

this way you can sort of create a 4 dimensional scaling tank

most tanks only build health and armor and that way only get 2 dimensional scaling in comparison to carries using AD attackspeed Crits and % damage increases for 4 dimensional scaling in terms of damage and they can also get armorpen in addition to that

And this armorpen is a big reason as to why you should not just go full armor because its not gold& slot efficient