Graves still WAYYYYYY too tanky.

He who made you·Mar 3, 2016·3 votes·853 views

Look when I have 40 flat armor pen and a black cleaver on Talon late game and I can't even half health graves when I land everything plus an ignite, there is something wrong with the champ.

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Zero Skill TankMar 3, 20161 votes

Yep I found it quite silly when playing Naut, who is kind of OP now, and still heavily losing trades to Graves, even being in melee range and considering how he needed to take my shield down.

Evolve WingsMar 3, 20161 votes

Is it really just that Graves is that tanky? Or is it his Runes, Masteries & Item build? I have seen many Graves use the Keystones Bond of Stone or even Strength Of The Ages(so that they can start with a long-sword or cull instead of a Dorans Blade), This combined with the Legendary Guardian Mastery can make pretty much any champion quite tanky in team fights. Not to mention despite the heavy nerfs Dead Man's Plate is still a quite OP Defensive item and is (most of the time) one of the best defensive items to pick up mid-late game which can heavily decrease the bursts assassin's will put out. A Graves using 15 armor in his Runes with said Masteries would be a very scary opponent. (Especially as an AD burst like Zed, Talon, Pantheon, Khazix etc.)

He who made youMar 3, 20161 votes

He was running thunderlords, built serek's and bloodthirster and ghost blade, he 3 shot our tank and was still tanky enough that I couldn't even manage to half health him. I really think there is just something inherently unbalanced with him right now.

Evolve WingsMar 3, 20161 votes

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He was running thunderlords, built serek's and bloodthirster and ghost blade, he 3 shot our tank and was still tanky enough that I couldn't even manage to half health him. I really think there is just something inherently unbalanced with him right now.

Yeah Graves is Really broken right now lmao. Im a Pantheon Main so i'm just sitting over here like when am i going to be that op?

MunchCrunchLunchMar 3, 20161 votes

ikr I was rengar the other day. both of us were full build and I couldn't 1v1 him. an assassin can't kill an adc. game is balanced. rito games balance team. honestly his autos were doing some ABSURD damage. hes too tanky for an adc.

VanjieMar 3, 20161 votes

That is their decision making skills. Steraks Gage should only be Melee and not Ranged. Riot knows this and they will be nerfing it in five patches. This is how Riot works. They take their sweet time with item nerfs, champion updates and balances, and more. They have poor decision making skills like when they put Xin, Graves, Udry, Yasuo, Tryn and others on Live before allowing more people to give them feedback on PBE.

Incompetent, useless, lazy Balance and Update Team.