Junglers in gold/silver, How to win without them?

CasabIancas·May 24, 2019·1 votes·920 views

Why do junglers in Gold/silver not play properly?

Got game after game where the jungle will rather go bot than mid/top to gank. Doesn't matter if my lane is frozen, or if I am literally spam pinging for help. They don't punish an overextension. AT.ALL. Instead they think forcing a gank bot that just reset is better. This happens in a majority of the games. at the very least 80% of the games that I have lost. Not saying that I play perfect, but I usually win my lane and if i don't I make sure to set up ganks for the jungle/midlaner, but they never ever come. Then I end up getting flamed for being useless when I am trying to farm with akali under turret.

Can't win all mathups, sometimes either they are better or just counterpicked too hard. And I am Tired of getting frustrated at the jungle, I want to know what I can do about it with Akali or fiora. So my question is, How do you win the game if you can't win the lane and/or Bot is inting hard and jungle is trying to save a dead lane? Any tips are welcome, just don't be a dick.

8 Comments

HvsaoMay 24, 20192 votes

This is a mentality you need to learn to break if you want to climb. It's is your fault for falling behind or being unable to 1 v 1. I know you be thinking, "what if the enemy jungler ganks me. Its unfair that I have to deal with a 2 v 1 all game." Well here is a fun fact, ganks are PREVENTABLE. Vision control prevents ganks easily.

With better regards to your question about how you can win lanes without jungler: pick champions with larger health pools and in lane sustain. Fiora is really strong pick, but Akali isn't. Also consider playing full tanks because they are much more consistent. Champions such as Mundo, Sion, and Volibear are just a few which will let you handle 2 v 1's safely.

Also have a bit more respect for junglers. The role is incredibly gutted right now, and its hard enough as it is. Each player has there own style. Some jungler prefer to help losing lanes get back into the game, some junglers like to help winning lanes get further ahead. It's like you picking Akali top instead of a more prominent top laner.

oBzAhKittyMay 24, 20191 votes

Play without them? How about just getting a duo jungler who has a brain?

oBzAhKittyMay 24, 20191 votes

Like idk how you counter pick jungle. Theres no such thing as a jungle counter pick, you're not laning against each other

jordon1234May 24, 20191 votes

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Like idk how you counter pick jungle. Theres no such thing as a jungle counter pick, you're not laning against each other

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CasabIancasMay 24, 20191 votes

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Like idk how you counter pick jungle. Theres no such thing as a jungle counter pick, you're not laning against each other

Uhm... what?

Not talking about counterpicking or even playing jgl. Talking about what to do when Jgl has severe tunnel vision. I am asking so that I can avoid doing the same mistake in my respective lane

CasabIancasMay 24, 20191 votes

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Play without them? How about just getting a duo jungler who has a brain?

Well I do, I just get my friend who plays yi, so if I can't carry us from mid game to victory, then he will carry late. Problem is tho, that Playing without him becomes irritating, and i get tilted pretty fast (working really hard on it :)). I just don't want to be dependent on a player to advance in this game. Even though it is a team based game.

SaezioMay 24, 20191 votes

Well, early game (post the level 2 gank if your jungler even attempts that) it's too risky to gank top. It's better to go for bot or mid into 4man bot dive and get dragon. So if you are playing mid you should still be getting ganks.

If you main top-lane, you need to pick champs that can weather the storm in a 1v2 or at least be able to consistently 1v1 kill your opponent. Don't pick tanks, just pick what is OP, ranged champs are also really good because low elo toplaners think it's cheating to play ranged champs top lane and never bother to learn playing against it.

CasabIancasMay 24, 20191 votes

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Well, early game (post the level 2 gank if your jungler even attempts that) it's too risky to gank top. It's better to go for bot or mid into 4man bot dive and get dragon. So if you are playing mid you should still be getting ganks.

If you main top-lane, you need to pick champs that can weather the storm in a 1v2 or at least be able to consistently 1v1 kill your opponent. Don't pick tanks, just pick what is OP, ranged champs are also really good because low elo toplaners think it's cheating to play ranged champs top lane and never bother to learn playing against it.

I one trick akali. So 1 v 2 isn't that hard most of the time. But those games are when my jgl is pretty irrelevant cause I hard carry the game.

I am talking about the games where I am stuck under turret cause I know that I will die if I try to engage. So I end up freeze right out of turret range, and even tho my laner overextends, jgl is nowhere to be seen. This applies to midlane too. Believe it or not, but jungles ignore my lane, no idea why. They rush in hoping that they míght get some damage off and end up returning either half hp (or lower) or dead. They don't seem to be willing to use their brain properly. Like ganking a reset lane, when the lane has been shoved under my turret for the past 5 min.