Is playing passive even a viable strategy?

MysteriousBootie··2 votes·823 views

Let's say you're playin' an ADC, or any champ that has a strong late-game and you don't want to risk settin' yourself behind. IS IT even viable in league of legends to NOT play for kills in the laning phase and j'es try to hit as much CS as possible? Then later on you can rely on items + levels + good positioning to win teamfights? Is it j'es a terrible idea in season 6? Sometimes it feels like league is a race to get ahead before the enemy team can tbh, which feels pretty crappy.

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

the game is about calculated risk around team comps/ power spikes(your them/enemy team) objectives and wave control. base decisions on those concepts.

Lost R2 votes

Playing passive is a combination of letting the enemy make an offensive so your team in turn can lead them into a trap and make a counter offensive by blocking off their escape, and gauging their patterns, their strengths, and their weaknesses. At some point, you need to take a stand and push hard at wherever you perceive the enemy's weakness to be, and crush them with one decisive strike. A game isn't won by letting the enemy constantly knock on your front door.

Some champions are better at the passive play than others. Mages and ranged champions in general are better at passive play, being able to safely push back the minion line from a distance by targeting entire crowds at once, but melee fighters and assassins - mostly champions that focus single targets at a time, primarily at close range - are not. You have to be aware of how good your team is at doing this; most players are absolutely incapable of telling the tactical differences between a Yasuo and a Vel'koz.

And that is where people trip up, among many other areas. People mistake passive play with letting the enemy take one objective after another without contest, all without claiming something of equal or greater value. If they take one turret, push to take two. If they go for dragon, go for Baron. If they go for Baron, take their Nexus. You have to know when to let them take an objective, when an objective is lost, and when you're in the perfect position to take advantage of their focus elsewhere. Again, most players are absolutely incapable of understanding glaring differences, let alone nuances. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen people who will drop everything in bot lane to rush towards a contested Baron, not understanding that it would take too long to get there, that the enemy would have killed the Baron, recalled and pushed out the lanes before they even got halfway there. If I'm too far away from a contestable objective, I don't try to double time it over there. I double down on my current objective, instead.

So yeah, it's a tactic just like almost everything else, but people as a whole have the tactical prowess of a gerbil with a concussion, so they use the wrong tactics at the wrong time in the wrong place with the wrong champion against the wrong enemy for the wrong reasons for the wrong objectives.

Inquisitor Kane1 votes

I say as a late game hyper carry this is a must. I lost too many games because Vayne with cutlass thought she can 1v2 enemy Cait or Draven with BF who has their suppot with them.

Of course, you should go for a kill if it is possible (if enemy is low and support engages or if you get good gank from team mate) because that may bring you to the hyper carry state sooner... but that is up to you to judge what are the chances of getting kill or assist and you dying in the process.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

If you're playing against a hypercarry (Bitchvayne, jinx, somewhat jhin), then no.

legionnaire991 votes

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If you're playing against a hypercarry (Bitchvayne, jinx, somewhat jhin), then no.

Jhin is a snowballer

GULAG 4 U1 votes

That's why I said somewhat.

legionnaire991 votes

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That's why I said somewhat.

but he not somewhat one he isn't he a get ahead early and snowball

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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If you're playing against a hypercarry (Bitchvayne, jinx, somewhat jhin), then no.

"somewhat jhin"

the guy fucking oneshots squishies late game with duskblade. Not sure why you aren't adding him with the hypercarries. He requires a different kind of fight than normal hypercarries sure but he can be total AIDS late game for anyone who isn't a 300 armor tank, and even then.

RemIsAmazing1 votes

Kills do not get you ahead. one kill is equal to 15 cs or less. improving your farming so you have about 100 cs at 10 minutes far outweighs the kills you could possibly get before then. that's not to say you should completely ignore the enemy either, poke them down while farming and then judge when you can go all in on them. it's best to wait for your jungler in the first place anyways - if the minions are on your side of the lane then that's pretty much a free gank waiting to happen.

420 grams1 votes

The game is pretty snowbally right now. If you play too passively and they end up taking a turret, get the first turret gold, and then it's worth more than you dying and they win anyway.

Meep Man1 votes

You really can only play Passive if you have range. If you are short ranged and are trying to play Passive, you are going to get crushed. If you are short ranged and late game, you really want to either A.) Hope the opponent has shorter range, B.) Hope your Support makes up for it, or C.) Go ham.

Swiftstrike41 votes

Are you in Silver or Bronze? Then yes. You can probably play passive and just farm a ton up to Gold 4 or 5 where players sort of begin to understand wave denial, wave management.

Doesn't matter what champions you are playing against. Players make enough mistakes in that Elo, don't CS, and prioritize kills so much it doesn't matter who you play as long as you play well.

CS lead is huge against a bot lane constantly trying to kill you and missing CS.

Players don't really push leads effectively until upper gold and plat. You can farm passively to gold regardless of the opposing ADC.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is probably stuck in bronze or silver themselves.

LadyRenly1 votes

There is Soraka for the passive strategy, and the entire forum thinks she is literally Hitler.

You are only allowed to play league if you are making LC$ BIG PLAYZ

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