(Noob Jg Main Here) Just hit 3150 IP, and I've had my eye on Shaco. He seems like a really cool champ, and has a really cool play style. But I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about him. I'm not sure if I should save up and take the safe pick (Lee Sin), or go for Shaco. Any advice would be awesome.
Ben Sharpio1 votesi think sion is the best of the two. He's a better and more reliable jungler and has better early game pressure and doesnt rely on cheese
Pandemic Punch1 votesShaco is easier to play. Lee Sin is overall better if you have very high level mechanics.
If you like to split-push Shaco is your guy. If you like trying to snipe primary targets then Lee Sin is your guy. However, to do that reliably, you need to probably play Lee Sin and nothing but Lee Sin for a loooong time.
Troy2426211 votes[{quoted}](name=I mute all of U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q8B1JEaq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-11T17:27:59.508+0000)
Shaco is easier to play. Lee Sin is overall better if you have very high level mechanics.
If you like to split-push Shaco is your guy. If you like trying to snipe primary targets then Lee Sin is your guy. However, to do that reliably, you need to probably play Lee Sin and nothing but Lee Sin for a loooong time.
Shaco is not as mechanically intense or flashy but the game knowledge it requires to do well enough as Shaco to justify using him over Lee Sin is tremendous.
There are also subtle mechanical nuances to Shaco, such as dodging projectiles with your ultimate, controlling your clone to mislead people and so on.
Pandemic Punch1 votesYou can pin game knowledge on any champion. Irrelevant.
Troy2426212 votes[{quoted}](name=I mute all of U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q8B1JEaq,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-11T18:33:03.461+0000)
You can pin game knowledge on any champion. Irrelevant.
Some champions rely on game knowledge for success more than others. To suggest otherwise is nonsensical.
Electrify691 votesI say neither and correct me if I'm wrong. Shaco feels pretty useless unless he cheeses the enemy junglers lvl1 (his job) or gets a lvl2 ganking off with red buff and can snowball off of that and win mid game late game I don't really see a shaco being an issue at all. He just gets nuked before he goes in or he's so weak he can't kill the enemy adc or squishy mid at all
exiledFromBadmen1 votesNeither, 
has more damage and tankiness.
If you're a n00b jungler, play something like 
or 
. They are not difficult and can teach important things about jungling.
Astôlfo1 votesBoth of them are incredibly hard to play. Shaco is better than Lee though at the moment.
Troy2426211 votes
main, but I will admit he's not the highest tier pick. There are OTPs that get Diamond+ though.
are the best junglers right now.
DarkRitual1 votesSave it. Shaco is getting some tuning in the Assassin update, so it's worth waiting to see if they Vel'Koz him before picking him up.
notmarked1 votesboth are trash
