why is this game filled with such cheap mechanics...

ian papabear·Dec 20, 2014·6 votes·834 views

such as allowing champions to dodge skills or ults that are locked on them? ex/fizz, you can literally dodge any and every ult given that you use this tumble and roll skill (idk the name of it), this not only makes them immune, which no champion should be without the zhonya item, but it also makes your champion , the one trying to activate a skill on them go null i.e you try to alpha strike fizz when he does this skills and yi initiates alpha but because the skill was neglected he completely stops and you have to regain control of your champion via clicking rather then going in one continuous movement.

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EffectFXDec 20, 20143 votes

Not every ability. For example you can't dodge any targeted DOT spells that are already being applied to you (think Swain, Malzahar, Fiddle).

Learn fizz's weakness' and maybe you can beat him. Yes he has them.

ian papabearDec 20, 20142 votes

the question is not fizz, im pointing out champing like fizz, idk the name of this category that contain these skills, ill just call them skills with dodging effects, these skills are contain mechanics that are unintended. you cancelling my ability to stop my champion or move should only come when you have applied some sort of skills against me or acticated cc agasint me, not because you dodge and jumped,etc and my champion goes null and doesnt know what to do, clearly the way after champion acts when this has happened is not game mechanics

EffectFXDec 20, 20142 votes

Actually those mechanics are FULLY intended.

wolfaxDec 20, 20142 votes

They're completely intended. You're acting like these abilities are bugged in some way. They're meant to allow them to dodge your abilities because if they couldn't they would be really easy to lock down and die. They're meant to be slippery.

JustMyBassCannonDec 20, 20141 votes

The mechanic is called "Untargetability"

It assumes that the champion cannot be targeted (or struck) during that time. Vladimir, Fizz, Zed, Yi, Lissandra, and Zhonya's Hourglass are the Untargetability effects (may have missed one or two).

They are able to avoid incoming missiles, both targeted and skill shot. They also, as the name would suggest, cannot be targeted by point-and-click spells.

This is a fully intended mechanic. It's rare--not as rare as walls that block projectiles--and the champions with that ability have had their kits designed with that ability in mind. In other words, the rest of their kit was balanced around that effect.

No, I am not claiming Fizz is perfectly balanced currently. But it's how he was meant to work.

DarkestDiscipleDec 20, 20141 votes

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The mechanic is called "Untargetability"

It assumes that the champion cannot be targeted (or struck) during that time. Vladimir, Fizz, Zed, Yi, Lissandra, and Zhonya's Hourglass are the Untargetability effects (may have missed one or two).

They are able to avoid incoming missiles, both targeted and skill shot. They also, as the name would suggest, cannot be targeted by point-and-click spells.

This is a fully intended mechanic. It's rare--not as rare as walls that block projectiles--and the champions with that ability have had their kits designed with that ability in mind. In other words, the rest of their kit was balanced around that effect.

No, I am not claiming Fizz is perfectly balanced currently. But it's how he was meant to work.

Shaco ult activation and Leblanc passive activation are the only other two I can think of. One is really difficult to use as a proper un-targetable ability (Shaco) and the other is basically impossible (Leblanc).