I miss backing at level 6 and my turret not being gone when I get back.
It's not fun watching a nexus turret get solo'd by a super minion.
Tank meta, and Courage diving is essentially just taking a few more steps in lane as the damage is irrelevant.
Short and sweet.
Unlucky4719 votesBot turrets need their armor back. I don't play bot a lot but every time I do I get four manned at level 5 and they take the tower in one push. It's promoting an unhealthy game style of "Whoever picks the best early game champs and attacks bot first wins"
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesOne reason why it has to be done is to remove the lane swaps in the LCS & other competitive matches. But I dunno which one I would like to Support, since LCS back before this feature was boring af.
morris11 votesThe better question is why they balance for LCS and put the changes in pubs too.
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesLike Lee Sin's mindless W buff at Patch 6.18?
Yea, I too wish they would stop doing that....
TotalJerk4 votesThe funny thing about that buff is that one of the selling points of Lee Sin is that he is mechanically demanding, something which a lot of players draw enjoyment from, and that extra lifesteal/spellvamp effectively allows you to be far more sloppy during your first clear.
Spoofghoul1 votesBut you know what would also gut the whole laneswap bs AND prevent the whole lets go full retard 5 man bot 10x over
make all turrets so god damn strong that you cant take them with a 5 man quickpush
give them extra damage shielding for the first 10 minutes depending on enemies nearby
then also give them like an extra 50 starting armor and health regen and give nexus turrets thornmail as an item
Herbal Kent3 votes[deleted]
Glory ln Death1 votesI am not aware of any bars or pubs (at least in the US - maybe there are some in Korea) that are at all influenced by the LCS.
Faceroll Tactics1 votesMight be sarcasm, but pubs - pick up battles, unorganized matchmaking
Glory ln Death1 votesYour sense of humor is... lacking.
Melledoneus2 votesDid you know? A sushi restaurant in China once iffered discounts based on rank.
Thanks, Riot tips!
General Esdeath 1 votesAnd thus top lane becomes an island again.
SGT Dingle Berry11 votesEspecially with first blood towers giving such an advantage. There are times when laning has its advantages for certain champions but with first tower being so important it turns into aram MUCH faster now.
dfbb19931 votesOh there is a laundry list of reasons behind the post, lol.
Moooose35 votesIf you have good back timings your turret shouldn't be taken if you back once, unless it was poked down slowly because you couldn't match waveclear and got shoved under turret constantly. Super minions are designed that way, if you have an inhib down it is supposed to be a nuisance and change how you have to play the game, because the super minion waves can end the game if you're stupid and chase somebody across the map.
50000000000000004 votesWhen you pick Janna and buy Ardent Censer, you can buff turrets. (sorry I had to)
KoKoboto1 votesHow what?
50000000000000005 votesJanna's shield buffs target's AD. This can also be used on turrets (the only shield in the game that does this). With Ardent Censer, you can buff the shielded target's attack speed.
I'm not sure if lifesteal passive works on towers, though.
Melledoneus1 votesOmfg turret lifesteal
HazyCloud73 votesBuff turret damage too. Doesn't take any semblance of coordination to pull of a successful tower dive right now.
EtherealMage2 votesI just had a level 9 
dive me, take damage from my as well as four turret shots and walk away.... So yeah they need a buff.
Critmaster Garen3 votesTank meta
dont make me laugh please. the current meta is all about carry junglers, and supports.
but you know. no matter what is curently dominant, people will blame a "tank meta". its a meme.
rtbf761092712 voteswell it's tankier than the 3 carry meta at worlds at least
Critmaster Garen1 voteswell it's tankier than the 3 carry meta at worlds at least
well, no shit. that was not how the game was supposed to be lol.
Melledoneus2 votesLook, assassins are broken. Tank meta.
Assassins suck. Tank meta.
Look, juggernauts are juggernauts. Tank meta.
Trump became president. Tank meta.
Fucking hell it's a tank meta every time the wind blows.
DunkinNoobs2 votesYou should be punished for being pushed out of lane. Season 5 spoiled people by giving solo lanes low CD tp's so it was impossible to ever take their towers 1v1. No more.
rtbf761092712 votesBuff the damage or their hp? I've always though they should do % true damage instead of % armor pen. So stupid to watch poppy and nautilus to take endless turrets shots and not care. It would help the gangbang bot meta too, if the top laner couldnt tank the turret quite as well as they can now after they tp
Cowseed1 votesWhat? Turret's should be NERFED if anything because I can't solo/tank a turret when it's at half health yet.
:p
SpecterVonBaren1 votesLet all supports be able to buff their turrets like Janna.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesI love backing against a level 6 maokai. not having teleport. 75% of its hp is gone by the time i get back into lane.
Glory ln Death1 votesIf you want to buff turrets, play Janna.
General Esdeath 1 votesI miss being able to back at level 6 without the enemy diving me and taking the tower without losing more than 1/2 of their HP.
Kayge1 votesPlease....they need it
AdeBug1 votesI made a thread but it disappeared without a delete/move notice. It's crazy atm, they're made of plastic.