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Support play at low elo

IA K0EBALT··2 votes·426 views

So I'm a Bronze 3 support main, and I like to get ruby sight-stone and keep my two item 3340 so my ADC doesn't have to face check brushes. Now someone in one of my recent games said "it's useless to keep your yellow trinket" along with other stuff. I'm pretty sure he was just toxic but that got me thinking is keeping yellow trinket useless at low elo? My conclusion is yes at high level item 3364 is better, but in B3 is it worth getting when no one places wards?

Any thoughts?

12 Comments

Kirius Dark3 votes

That guy is right. Once you get a sightstone get rid of yellow. Just because you're wrong doesn't make other people toxic End of story

IA K0EBALT2 votes

oh no he was flaming everyone talking in all chat ect. ect. he definitely was toxic i'm just paraphrasing something he said that made me think. 100% toxic. Again, how is item 3364 worth it. just cause its the higher mmr/elo item does it have any use if no one places wards that much? like the only place people place wards is Baron, drag, and the bush in river near your lane. If it is the right play explain how is it the right play at lower elo. it just doesn't make sense to me. Getting something to deny vision when no one places it at low elo. I just feel that it's useless to try to deny very little vision then to make sure your adc is safe. explain in depth how my thinking is wrong?

Swimmersw3 votes

Yello trinket isn't necessary after sight stone once you hit sight stone switch to red trinket and upgrade at lv 9 it still shows the outline of enemy champs so your not face checking.

La Belle Sauvage1 votes

The exact Advice I was going to give. I'd add always buy a pink ward too, so you can use it to deny vision and setup ganks.

Martyrofsand3 votes

So I've seen your comments and I get where you are coming from, IE you feel that if you are not going to sweep that many wards you get more value out of the additional wards the yellow trinket gives.

The thing is though 1 ward, especially at low elo, can make a world of difference specifically because people don't sweep/buy control wards like they should. The amount of games I saw swing in my teams favor because the enemy team didn't sweep a baron/dragon ward or because I did sweep what wards they placed and made them face check into certain death when I started my climb back in Silver 4 is pretty crazy.

Deny 1 ward and making the enemy teams mini-map go completely black can be very game breaking and it shouldn't be underestimated.

If you absolutely don't want to buy a red trinket at least buy the blue 1 as it gives you a long range ward to place in brush to avoid getting jumped, and that ward doesn't have a timer so it can last longer depending on where you place it and doesn't counter as part of your 3 ward limit.

IA K0EBALT1 votes

I do buy a lot of item 2055 probably the most in bronze lol i average probs about 7 a game, also I have considered the blue and I didn't know it doesn't count towards the 3 limit knowing that I'll probably trade up my item 3340 for item 3363

RookPusher2 votes

B4 here, I play it by ear. Since I'm dropping a lot of item 2055 prior to level 9, if I notice that I haven't discovered a lot of enemy wards, I take item 3363 over item 3364.

No pro is going to tell you to do that but its more logical in bronze.

SciFi Scrivener1 votes

I'm a bronze support also, and have had the same experience. I've stuck to getting the sweeper because those few games that the opposing team does use wards, I like getting rid of them. Also, having a sweeper gives my team confidence that when we are hiding in brush to ambush the other team, that we'r enot sitting on a ward.

Your plan isn't flawed, and you probably end up doing better with yello trinket late game, but don't ignore the benefits of KNOWING the opponent has no wards around Baron before going in.

Kirius Dark2 votes

There's no point in having a sightstone plus yellow trinket when you cap out at 3 wards on the map. There's no guarantee there's zero vision anywhere just because it's low ELO so sweeper to clear vision, or even if you find nothing then you know there's no vision which allows better plays rather than just assuming there's no vision

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

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There's no point in having a sightstone plus yellow trinket when you cap out at 3 wards on the map. There's no guarantee there's zero vision anywhere just because it's low ELO so sweeper to clear vision, or even if you find nothing then you know there's no vision which allows better plays rather than just assuming there's no vision

But your adc will 99% push wave wrong or stay exposed so its better to have 5-6 wards to at least warn the scrub he is out of position than 3 when 2 pinks can do more abd it doesnt have the timer.

IA K0EBALT2 votes

Thanks lol, I was beginning to think that my thinking is flawed and i'm crazy. Thanks for telling without making me feel like im a bronze piece of shit that can't play the game lol. And that does make sense than k you for at least seeing where im coming from. See you on the rift :P

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

You are actually correct since red wards are more versatile and in low elo you cant tell your adc to push lane or stop pushing lane so u can back. Keep yellow so you have wards just buy a red or 2 then plz switch to oracle lvl9.

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