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oompa loompaa2 votes

It compares you to other Blitzcranks in the region so maybe your assist is probably too low compared to the other ones or maybe your vision score

LingLing231 votes

I know what it's supposed to do, but I find that very hard to believe. =]

Parceval1 votes

Wait, how is that only an A? LUL

Solidarius1 votes

geting S on supp is always the hardest in my opinion, mabey it takes into calculation wards placed/heals/shields ect

maybe its the cs/ no idea

nice kda!!!

question...did anyone on your team get an S?

LingLing231 votes

Yep, my adc :D

Tails90161 votes

Stole too many kills

jk. From my experience, tanks take a lot to get an S on: the only reason I think I get them is because I main tanks and supports: The play-makers or the guys who help the play-makers.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I got the feeling that hitting skillshots has an influence in the grade. Did you miss alot of hooks in that game?

LingLing231 votes

I'm sure I missed some, but a lot? I certainly don't think so. The majority of the assists were from pulls

Killed Inaction1 votes

What was your vision score, if you don't mind me asking? The kda was worth an S, certainly, but if you had low vision score, especially on a support, it'll drastically reduce your grade.

LingLing231 votes

IF you're right, and that was the primary reason for the score being lower, that seems odd. Since, in a game where we're clearly winning high vision score becomes a secondary priority to grouping and maintaining the momentum by supplying localized vision around the snowball. While in situations of even or come-from-behind global vision is much more important.

That said, I can't seem to track that number down. But I had about similar wards with the other support.

Killed Inaction1 votes

It's easier to get higher vision score when you're ahead, as wards placed in the enemy jungle count for more than wards placed in your own jungle. Also, it's always good to have wards to provide vision when baron and dragon are up or about to come up. Wards providing vision on baron and dragon count more toward vision score. In a 35 minute game, you should have 60 vision score, minimum, if you won the game. Also, if you're winning, you should have drastically more vision score than the enemy support.

While localized vision is good, you should keep in mind that vision across the areas of the map where it would be easiest to catch someone out (on their blue, for example, if you've pushed the mid inner turret) are good as well. Overlapping vision counts for less, so if people are constantly walking through the bushes or areas where you have wards down, or if other people are warding the same areas, they'll count for less.

LingLing231 votes

Agree to disagree.

As a support main, I can tell you with absolute certainty that leaving the pack to go ward is dangerous as it leaves my adc exposed. In low soloq adcs are like sheep, you can't leave them alone and when you do they often die.

Yes, vision is important. Is high vision score important ENOUGH to outweigh a support carry as I clearly did in this game? I 100% think not. There is an optimal amount of warding in every game, and it is circumstances dependent.

Killed Inaction2 votes

Where did I say you have to go warding alone? As you walk with your ADC from bot to mid, throw a ward on dragon, or ping assistance to ward blue/red. If your jungler is taking the rift scuttler, throw a ward on dragon or baron, because the scuttler vision doesn't give enough to show the HP of said dragon and baron. If your tier 2 mid turret is getting pushed, place wards around it. If you're pushing the tier 2 mid turret, place wards around it. Making sure the enemy isn't going to flank your ADC is just as important as being there with them in making sure they don't die, if not more so, if the enemy isn't already there, in which case you obviously shouldn't leave to ward.

I recognize that there are many cases where it feels unsafe to ward deeper/further out, but in those cases walk with someone. Even if their goal isn't to ward, if someone is running through the jungle, you can stay with them and ward as you go. The same goes for roaming; just stick with one or more other people and ward the important places. You should encourage your teammates to ward the more localized areas as you push since your sightstone wards last longer than the trinket wards, so having them on objectives is more effective.

There are inevitably going to be times when your ADC goes back to base when you don't need to. Don't follow them. Head to where they will be and ward as you go. There are also going to be times when you need to go back and your ADC doesn't. Again, head to where they will be or where you are needed, and ward along the way.

If you have vision on every enemy, you know nobody's waiting for you in a bush in the jungle, so you can go warding. If you saw an enemy go back to base less than 30 seconds ago, and you have vision on the others who are alive, you know they won't be in your team's jungle. Take advantage of the vision already present to safely ward the places you need to.

I'm just saying you need to be smart about it, as with everything in this game, and if you don't have a high vision score as support, you could be doing a better job. Even just 2 wards every 3 minutes on average for a 30+ minute game is exceptional, and naturally remember to buy Control Wards. Keep the little things in mind and they'll add up, and before you know it you'll have vision scores of 60+ in 30 minute games, and you'll be getting S like nobody's business, since you clearly know your stuff when it comes to combat.

AdeBug1 votes

based on what others said, it might be a combo between vision score and no of assists. My personal goal when it comes to assists is at least 50% of no of kills, not sure if riot has a rule for it but people before you might've reached that and then some, and in games where everyone is ahead and getting kills either fast, before u get there, or on their own splitting, it really reduces your chances of getting high assists. I recently got an S with Lux while going 6/1/smth like 14, can't remember total no of kills, and I did NOT go sightstone as we were ahead early and I already ward a lot. So yea, must've been ur assists. Or rather, other people before you..'s assists.

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