In more than 25 % of the games, I have played with leavers. In 15 of these games, it happened to be on my team.
Now it was 4'th game in a row and costed me a demotion.
Please, punish people harder for leaving. It has no consequences, except than a little message claming u shouldn't do it.
Saianna17 votespunish people harder for leaving.
Ritos wisdom for today: punished players don't buy skins.
Risen2913 votesIt's been absolutely rampant. This last weekend the majority of my normal games, literally over 50% of them, had a leaver or afk on just my own team. Not even counting the enemy team. I didn't dare try playing ranked in that environment. I need to wait until time zones when there are less kids on.
I haven't played the game for a long time, but it never use to be this bad. Never.
Something has changed, and I think it's that Riot has gotten way too lax about enforcement of behavioral standards. They only care about punishing the worst offenders of toxic chat.
Enforcement works. I rarely see people who are overtly abusive in chat. They don't want to get banned so they moderate their behavior.
No such moderation exists in any other aspect of player behavior. Because they know there will be no punishment. They have the data to punish passive afking farming, afking for half the game, and other things. They just don't do it. The game is becoming unplayable at average elo because of it.
Paintchip1 votesWring, they ban you if you kinda fet tired of them not doing anything and then snap at one of these afk types.
Cynikul7 votesWelcome to Silver.
It gets a little better as you climb higher. The problem is they have to balance between genuine UNFORSEEN life problems that come up for it, connection problems, game crashing that quite frankly, dont deserve to be punished- and people that literally just leave the game because of rage or arguing, or just have been inting.
I'm a bit of the former. About 1/20 games I've crashed. I don't think I've EVER left a game intentionally or afk'd, or atleast if I had left a game for life it was years ago, but I think most the time we squeezed out the game in the nick of time. In any case, I suppose the difference here is my game yields a remake which doesnt hurt anyone- except 9 other peoples 5 minutes, which kinda sucks for them but in the grand scheme of things is so minuscule. Anyways- long story short, they have to keep both sides happy and its pretty hard. If it came down to a straight:
"Should people who intentionally leave/afk have harsher punishments?"
Then yes. Half the time its undetectable because they just afk farm if they smart, so they are "playing" but not really playing, intentionally going to the opposite side of the teams push/defense. Its aggrivating, I get it , but higher elos get it too.
Klofius8 votesI see the problem, but I am the one getting punished for others mistakes. I am loosing LP in all occasions. I am a casual player, but usually I climb to gold 3 or something like that (which is also where I feel like I belong) - however, how am I ever supposed to climb? This season, it has been worse than ever. I don't know if it is just me that is particularly unlucky.
21 % of my games, I have lost due to leavers. They say you climb if you win 55 % of the games, due to the rule of numbers - which is also true. If these 21 % of my games had come out with a 50/50 win rate, I would've had a win rate on 55 % and most likely be close, if not already been i gold. Instead I am sitting back with a win-rate on 45 % and stuck in silver.
Most of these people go 0-3 or worse on lane and then leave. I like the game, and I have no problems with loosing a fair match. I really enjoy playing in gold where the team fights are even, people react on pings and collectively go for objectives, but gosh it is so toxic in Silver, and after my second demotion from SII to SIII due to consecutive leaving, I am on the edge of finally deleting League of Legends for good.
This system should take into consideration that I did not loose due to being at a too high elo, which is why I should not be taking LP or even get demoted.
I do not longer enjoy playing.
Snowman Arc3 votesIt gets worse the higher you climb...
Venomar3 votesWelcome to Silver.
It gets a little better as you climb higher. The problem is they have to balance between genuine UNFORSEEN life problems that come up for it, connection problems, game crashing that quite frankly, dont deserve to be punished- and people that literally just leave the game because of rage or arguing, or just have been inting.
I'm a bit of the former. About 1/20 games I've crashed. I don't think I've EVER left a game intentionally or afk'd, or atleast if I had left a game for life it was years ago, but I think most the time we squeezed out the game in the nick of time. In any case, I suppose the difference here is my game yields a remake which doesnt hurt anyone- except 9 other peoples 5 minutes, which kinda sucks for them but in the grand scheme of things is so minuscule. Anyways- long story short, they have to keep both sides happy and its pretty hard. If it came down to a straight:
"Should people who intentionally leave/afk have harsher punishments?"
Then yes. Half the time its undetectable because they just afk farm if they smart, so they are "playing" but not really playing, intentionally going to the opposite side of the teams push/defense. Its aggrivating, I get it , but higher elos get it too.
I wanted to play a game before work today and my ADC afks because they had to poop. After Qing up, selecting a champ, and entering the game. They just leave and we are forced to remake. 10 minutes of my time wasted and now I'm unable to play before work, all because they couldn't shit before they pressed "find game".
It's so inconsiderate, like I can't even fathom what goes through a person's head to play a game and excuse that "they thought they could hold it" knowing that they were gonna probably have to leave at some point. I'd IP ban people like this if I could. You don't deserve to play league if you can't even deal with your own bodily functions properly.
NorthernRedStar1 votesIt's not just a silver thing. People frequently troll, afk, and int feed in diamond games too.
4262877 votesThe reason someone leaves shouldnt matter. If your internet is so bad that afk is a constant issue, you need to be banned just like the troller dogs.
Klofius1 votesI do agree. Crashes, afk's, rage-quitting and even inting should be punished so bad.
Back in Heroes of Newerth, if you had 3 % afk'ing, you could only play "leavers league"/normals untill your leaving % were back below 3 %.
AMYS GRAVE7 votesOut of my 14 games this past weekend i had 8 or 9 games with an afk. I don't understand how riot can pretend to be running a competitive game. What a joke.
best Evaine EU6 votesyeah inting and leaving has no consequences, at least nowhere near to being """"""""""toxic"""""""""""
Xonra1 votesUnless you are a streamer, then you'll just be ignored for years.
AquariusGine4 votesthis this this, in the last 10 games, 3 had AFKers, what is happening?!??
cheerfothebeer4 votesIn more than 25 % of the games, I have played with leavers. In 15 of these games, it happened to be on my team.
Now it was 4'th game in a row and costed me a demotion.
Please, punish people harder for leaving. It has no consequences, except than a little message claming u shouldn't do it.
Stop thinking of solo q as a competitive experience and instead think of it as trash feeder afk practice mode.
Xonra1 votesProblem with that is pretending you are practicing for something else. There is nothing above that for the vast majority of players, so that logic won't really last long.
Snowman Arc3 votesI had the same problem lately. Lost 6 out of my last 15 games because of AFKers.
Starcraft243ver3 votesI have maybe an afk every 100 games or so, are you incredibly unlucky or are you exagerating ?
3TWarrior2 votesthe EU weren't raised by US's tv and public education systems XD
Klofius1 votesI counted in a spreadsheet after my first 20 games! I think you are just extremely lucky then!
Xonra1 votesIt has been pretty rampant over the past week. I'm convinced there is a big problem with the servers Riot just isn't telling us. Since last wednesday my ping has been on average higher and I'm getting lots of ping spikes. On multiple days I had people on both teams dc'ing at once, and so on.
Calabok2 votesnot a bad ratio for you, could be worse
Sylias Ravenmore2 votesI've had similar experiences and what not.. I'm looking for an answer to the problem a lot players are having and the reason you are seeing a lot more AFKs lately.
8.6 has done something to the servers and multiple players are reporting their ping is fine but then will shoot up really high.
My connection never lags and since 8.6 my $7000 laptop (you'd shit if you seen the specs, I bought it for high end media creation) I just bought will go from 100FPS+ and 30MS to 3FPS and 140,000+ MS and the game has been unplayable.
It is doing this on every computer I own (6) and I have repaired clients, reinstalled the game, did work inside the routers, and have even tried playing the game on other ISP as I live in the vicinity of 3 states at several friends with separate ISP. It is absolutely nothing on my end and people across 3 of my clubs (over 250 players) are all reporting similar issues.
Every amount of troubleshooting points to it being on riots end.
People are reporting it in the forums and on reddit, and the posts are getting deleted concerning it and people are being told its their fault.
I call bullshit. My theory is Riots scared that people will link it to the voice chat and that no one will want to use it over Discord and Curse etc.
Cynikul1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sylias Ravenmore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pi1Vb7iN,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-03-29T00:58:35.232+0000)
I've had similar experiences and what not.. I'm looking for an answer to the problem a lot players are having and the reason you are seeing a lot more AFKs lately.
8.6 has done something to the servers and multiple players are reporting their ping is fine but then will shoot up really high.
My connection never lags and since 8.6 my $7000 laptop (you'd shit if you seen the specs, I bought it for high end media creation) I just bought will go from 100FPS+ and 30MS to 3FPS and 140,000+ MS and the game has been unplayable.
It is doing this on every computer I own (6) and I have repaired clients, reinstalled the game, did work inside the routers, and have even tried playing the game on other ISP as I live in the vicinity of 3 states at several friends with separate ISP. It is absolutely nothing on my end and people across 3 of my clubs (over 250 players) are all reporting similar issues.
Every amount of troubleshooting points to it being on riots end.
People are reporting it in the forums and on reddit, and the posts are getting deleted concerning it and people are being told its their fault.
I call bullshit. My theory is Riots scared that people will link it to the voice chat and that no one will want to use it over Discord and Curse etc.
I haven't had these issues at all. No, im not saying your problem doesn't exist, but something doesnt add up here, I will agree. If all your computers are having it where you are at, its likely traffic is being directed poorly.
To blame voice is just hideously irresponsible and stupid though.
And lets be real here; Riot has absofuckinlutely 0 incentive as a company to withold that information or remove there voice if it turned out that even 2 to 3% of players were experiencing this, because they would lose (literally translates to about 1.75 million players) tons of players. They have absolutely no direct benefit for offering this and increasing server costs, when they could cut it, get there money back, and let the players fucking use dicord or teamspeak on there own. Its literally costing them to do this, so its pretty evident they're doing it for the players for absolutely 0 monetary gain of there own other than a QoL change to potentially draw.
That is a fucking stupid conspiracy theory if you really think about it thoroughly.
muted team chat2 votesHaven't one in maybe 50 games.
Jeanne fan club1 votesBack when I was in my promos to gold I got 13 afk teammates in a row. Demoted me all the away back to silver 2. Sry to say but it doesn't get that much better the higher elo you get, plat is the absolute worst offender, and low diamond has other ways of making you hate the game.
PirateKingMike1 votesDoes the system have an algorithm that will insert a given summoner into a bad teams que once he begins to do well? I got my win rate mid up to 87% and was at a 70% win rate with Kayle. Consistently getting competent summoners on my team, not people that carry hard but simply play correctly. Once I carry a handful of games I start getting horrible team mates for an incredibly long streak. So would something exist in their que settings that would involve: Player A win rate% > 60% then group with Players B,C,D,E, whose win rate % < 30%.????? Because I have observed this as fact.
Risen293 votesDoes the system have an algorithm that will insert a given summoner into a bad teams que once he begins to do well? I got my win rate mid up to 87% and was at a 70% win rate with Kayle. Consistently getting competent summoners on my team, not people that carry hard but simply play correctly. Once I carry a handful of games I start getting horrible team mates for an incredibly long streak. So would something exist in their que settings that would involve: Player A win rate% > 60% then group with Players B,C,D,E, whose win rate % < 30%.????? Because I have observed this as fact.
I swear this is how it must work.
Anytime I go on a winstreak paired with average or competent teammates, I notice the game will start filling my team with the most pants on head retarded players possible as a challenge to try carrying this whole game 1vs9.
They're like: I see you've won your last 10 games. I dare you to carry this one. Ziggs jungle. Yi support. Botlane feeding 10 kills in the first 10 minutes. It becomes a race against the clock at top or mid lane to see if I can rack up kills fast enough to offset my team's self sabotage.
Lil Lewd Witch1 votesI swear this is how it must work.
Anytime I go on a winstreak paired with average or competent teammates, I notice the game will start filling my team with the most pants on head retarded players possible as a challenge to try carrying this whole game 1vs9.
They're like: I see you've won your last 10 games. I dare you to carry this one. Ziggs jungle. Yi support. Botlane feeding 10 kills in the first 10 minutes. It becomes a race against the clock at top or mid lane to see if I can rack up kills fast enough to offset my team's self sabotage.
I've been having obnoxious bouts of this also. I play a really solid ADC, been like a 65% win rate on it, but then after like a 5-6 game win streak, Ill get support players that no joke, dont place a single ward within 20 minutes, or my last game where mid and jungle combined to give an enemy olaf 4 kills in like the first 5 minutes, so despite taking the bot turret in ~8 minutes, we were still down 2k from the get go.
Its win streaks or loss streaks, nothing competitive.
5050BS2 votesRiot says they dont do this. BUT they also have said they try and make everyone 50/50. Forcing bad players onto your team will lower your win rate and maybe raise theirs if you are a GREAT player. Two birds one stone.
I dont put it passed riot to lie to us ether because many many many people have this experience.
xPhantomDancerX1 votesIt's funny because afkers just make an entire game pointless. 1 game there's an afker on the other team. The next time it's an afker on mine. Like why.
DeadUnborn1 votescute, here in LAn I have had 24 out of 27 games have an afk on normals
SirNikolai1 votesListen lads. Riot has may this game into a kids game. If we adults can't accept it than we must leave. **My fellow employees play Fortnite adult version of Minecraft/ build and kill. **
Most kids still live with their folks until they are 20+
If you are one of the lucky 1s out living with an roommate or GF/BF, do you think you could afford the best Internet possible? (avergae internet at best because the house market out there is JESUS*[sg-zephyr]*
We can't control kids online that's another factor. (Let's hope they rage too much they break their own computers and such)
SuperGeon1 votes[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Violet Fields1 votesWhy are you surprised, this game is awful right now. I had a Kayn go Shadow Assassin, got 38 kills, got a triple kill once with just his Q.
SanKakU1 votesMy ping increased for one game, it made me stop playing for a while, assuming they'll fix it soon. It didn't increase by a huge amount, like 20-40 or so, jumping around, but what really irritated me was I started getting noticeable packet loss, I'd tell my champ to do something and it clearly wouldn't. I was still well under 100 ms.
Shíníng Díamond1 votesAre you sure it's not because of lag? I've been seeing more people with ping issues in general.
Pandeonor1 votesI´d 2 afk´s and one was flamed out of match in 80 matches.
So, the quit-because-of-flaming-quote is 50% in my games.
Would like to know what are the afk-rates for toxic players. Will be higher then for others as toxic players cause more others to leave.
So... who is more likely claiming high afk rates?
Sylias Ravenmore1 votesNot really. They have invested time into putting it in here. A problem with it will mean no one will use it, and I'm sure they have big plans for it. Like you said there are costs and they are going to want to get an RoI somewhere. I'm not sure whats going on, but I have heavily troubleshooted the issue and whatever it is it comes down to something on riots end with 8.6.
I posted my first post here over in another part where the Reds are actively discussing 8.6 because they aren't responding to tickets or forums. I figure if I reply to them on posts I'm being sneaky enough to force at least an acknowledgement on their part. In fact I thought this was that thread... But looks like 8.6 discussion got quiet when I went in over there.
Every computer is doing it. I've also tried on several friends computers now.
I've connected on 3 different Isps in 3 states at around 12 locations now.
My main account and smurfs all have this, as well as my wifes, and friends. Not to mention I have people in my clubs (across other states) quitting because its the same thing. Everything is fine, then frames will drop low and ping will skyrocket.
However as of last night, the ping has been higher than normal, but isn't unplayable, but the frames will go from 120 down to 4 and this laptop has 12gb of ram I believe (i'd have to double check) plus a graphics card for gaming and is decked out.. There is no reason for the frames to drop. I've yet to try another computer since last night (who would want to downgrade right?) but intend to give it a shot today because I could really use some league time other than just playing customs (i want to play some ranked).
I've tried forwarding ports in the router and etc, I play hardwired so no wifi.
As mentioned. Ive reinstalled several copies of windows on all the computers, did the hextech tool. Fully repaired the client, reinstalled the game.
Nothing is changing. Other games (with way more requirements and taking more resources than league) are operating just fine. Unless I've missed something (and I have bad ocd), I've tried everything.
Others reporting this issue aren't getting a response either. Their threads are either deleted, or going unanswered. Even on reddit, where I've been told to go. Which bothers me I shouldn't have to go to a third party website to get an answer from an employee to a problem for a game with its own community.
None of it makes any sense, and this is the first time I've seen riot go to this extreme to not answer an issue.
Hence the conspiracy. I'm going to assume its something big and they are being advised to not answer questions until they know. Its very common in damage control situations, but I've already had a few friends just outright quit the game to go play something else because its ridiculous.
I literally watched my ping raise to 140,000,000 and then got booted out. My internet works just fine. I've been playing smite all week and a few other games.
I came to look and see if there is a response. Im trying to be patient, but this was my last week to play league as I am moving this week and the new location doesn't have internet so I'm a little sad. I fucking love this game. (well it does, but its going to be at least a month because of repairs needed and I won't have that cash because of the cost of the move)
Report for Wuju1 votesIt's strange because out of your 100 last games i could only find 10 AFKs.
5eapea1 votes[{quoted}](name=Report for Wuju,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pi1Vb7iN,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2018-04-01T19:08:38.670+0000)
It's strange because out of your 100 last games i could only find 10 AFKs.
I've noticed player's aren't always marked accurately as afk even though they were, so I wouldn't go by that.
Paintchip1 votesIn more than 25 % of the games, I have played with leavers. In 15 of these games, it happened to be on my team.
Now it was 4'th game in a row and costed me a demotion.
Please, punish people harder for leaving. It has no consequences, except than a little message claming u shouldn't do it.
Only 25% of your games have that? Fuck me, I want your account’s luck in matchmaking.
Faerie Goddess1 votesIm pretty sure my attendance is like really really high.. It should match me with players who dont RQ or leave disconnect etc. Also give rewards to people that have good attendance on patches where crashing is not typical.