About Time to Bring Mac Optimization

CIapper··5 votes·5,248 views

Wassup boys

A lot like most Mac users, I was a long time PC user that switched to iOS a few years ago. I'm not a huge gamer, and have quite a bit of documentation and creative work to do so I found Mac to be more suiting for me.

I believe there are thousands of players who also enjoy playing league on their Macs, but encounter multiple struggles against basic features. For example, permission request to use mic for the league voice chat never popping up (yup, still not available), or overheating even on medium to low graphic settings; things you would never experience while playing on PC. Of course, Macs weren't made for gaming (although the gaming community is now growing) nor was this game made with Mac users in mind. But with the current number of Mac gamers and profit Riot reaps, it seems fairly reasonable to begin optimization for this operating system.

On the side note, I think it would be more than helpful to implement team voice chat (of course with a way to restrict toxic players) so that players have more effective game plays and don't have to waste CPU and bandwidth on discord.

What do yall think?

(Insert PC users' sarcasm here)

21 Comments

PositiveMental414 votes

How does it feel paying more money for an inferior product?

kda akali2 votes

Mac was made for people who need the organization and on-the-go utilities that simplicity provides. They have more advanced cyber security and more customization built in with MacOS. It really isn't an inferior product. If you want to play games you can buy a gaming laptop. Macbooks and Macs were made for work rather than games. You don't need to judge others purchases especially when they're something you can't afford.

U R Good At Game1 votes

Mac OS is a nightmare for developers to work with compared to windows. It's a shit show. They've targeted certain coding languages like Java over the years and made integrating them a pain the ass. I mean that's all apple products. They make integrating third party everything a shit show so you are forced into doing every in apple's turf. To a larger extent, everything that isn't in mac's native coding just runs like shit in comparison.

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Mac was made for people who need the organization and on-the-go utilities that simplicity provides. They have more advanced cyber security and more customization built in with MacOS. It really isn't an inferior product. If you want to play games you can buy a gaming laptop. Macbooks and Macs were made for work rather than games. You don't need to judge others purchases especially when they're something you can't afford.

More customization? Apple is known for ripping out third party support/plugins and internal modification interfaces in favor of pretty buttons and UI. If your talking about customization as in making pretty look prettier than maybe? but as far as _actual _customization of how your machine operates to the 0's and 1's of the machine, mac doesn't compare. All apple does is dumb down everything and make it look pretty and trendy. They are nothing but marketing geniuses and have built brand recognition that sells itself. They can sell their macs as the ultimate work laptop to primarily around college age demographics because of this marketing. I go on a college campus and everyone has macs, literally everywhere. I go in the real world and macs all but disappear very fast except in select locations with the same marketing demographic as apple. LOOKING AT YOU FUCKING STARBUCKS!!!

You pay for macs for the brand and the GUI. It's the EXACT same thing as buying an alienware. Buying a rolex. Buying Jordan's. You eat their marketing telling you it's x y and z meanwhile all it really is happens to be style, design and prettiness. The fact that apple can get away with the specs on their new macs for that price is absolutely disgusting.

Hell even on their ad for their newest macbook: "Play a graphics-intensive game like Fortnite and enjoy responsive performance and vivid detail."........................y....yo.....your joking right? Fortnite's graphics are specifically stylizied to run on toasters. My 8 year old dell inspiron which could only run league of legends on low has fortnite. You are NOT going to tell me your machine can support graphically intensive games and then list fortnite as you example! Just another example of apple's marketing taking advantage of trends and people who don't know better.

PositiveMental412 votes

Why am I not autothorized to downvote or upvote comments. But this post pretty much sums it up PC > Mac

kda akali1 votes

More customization? Apple is known for ripping out third party support/plugins and internal modification interfaces in favor of pretty buttons and UI. If your talking about customization as in making pretty look prettier than maybe? but as far as _actual _customization of how your machine operates to the 0's and 1's of the machine, mac doesn't compare. All apple does is dumb down everything and make it look pretty and trendy.

Okay? Windows makes everything over complicated and messy. Windows comes with tons of unnecessary applications. Apple really doesn't "dumb down" everything, they just simplify it and make it visually appealing. The average person doesn't need or care things that are on windows computers. Pretty and trendy is also good. They create visually appealing computers. Walking into a college lecture with a gaming laptop looks childish.

You pay for macs for the brand and the GUI. It's the EXACT same thing as buying an alienware. Buying a rolex. Buying Jordan's. You eat their marketing telling you it's x y and z meanwhile all it really is happens to be style, design and prettiness. The fact that apple can get away with the specs on their new macs for that price is absolutely disgusting.

Rolex watches are high quality and last for a long time and Jordans are basically collector shoes.

Hell even on their ad for their newest macbook: "Play a graphics-intensive game like Fortnite and enjoy responsive performance and vivid detail."........................y....yo.....your joking right? Fortnite's graphics are specifically stylizied to run on toasters.

They are achieving this on a extremely thin laptop that wasn't even designed to play video games. It's just an added bonus.

U R Good At Game1 votes

Your entire argument across this whole post literally just agrees with me so idk why you bother responding.

they just simplify it

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Pretty and trendy

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wasn't even designed to play video games

Thank you for admitting you buy a mac for pretty, trendy and dumbed down system instead of actual performance capability. Thanks for admitting it wasnt designed for games even though they specifically sell it to you in their ads as playing GRAPHICALLY INTENSIVE games. Thats all I needed. That is why Macs only predominantly exist in the 17-23 age range. They are too expensive under that and over that people realize it's all marketing. Again, The only places that use macs in the real world are places that want to appeal to college kids because its nothing more than a trend.

The OS is hyper restrictive for developers, the machines GPU still uses intel integrated, the CPU is meh at best and the machine itself is prone to overheating like most apple products. But dw, it's braindead to use and pretty. When you talk about computers, sacrificing performance for pretty icons is inferior. That's really all there is to it.

kda akali1 votes

Okay? and catering to the consumer isn't a bad thing. People want what Apple is giving to them. It's not hard 2 understand luv xx

U R Good At Game1 votes

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Okay? and catering to the consumer isn't a bad thing. People want what Apple is giving to them. It's not hard 2 understand luv xx

When did I say it was bad for a business to cater to consumers? That's perfectly fine, it's the delusional consumers of that business that actually believe their mac competes with other machines in anything except pretty GUI. It's okay to buy a trendy product but to pretend it's nothing more than a trend and eat the marketing while also spreading misinformation due to it is another. Hell I'm bewildered the whole MaC HaS BetTer SecURitY myth is still being spread by people when that hasn't been the case since windows 8. They are virtually the same in security now but Mac warriors would have you believe Macs are this unique impenetrable fortress of security.

For example, I have an I-phone. And I am perfectly fine to admit that there are many androids for the price of my Iphone X that simply perform better and have double the options due to being an open source OS. Like idk about you guys but I'm not gonna pretend my iphone can compete just because I have an iphone lol.

CIapper1 votes

Can you rec me a good windows laptop, below 1500? Not too heavy and no 2 lb power brick would be nice. I make music on the side so gotta be conveniently portable.

Maybe ill try going back to windows when i start to make real money

U R Good At Game1 votes

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Can you rec me a good windows laptop, below 1500? Not too heavy and no 2 lb power brick would be nice. I make music on the side so gotta be conveniently portable.

Maybe ill try going back to windows when i start to make real money

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15-laptop/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop/DYCWB1651H

Similar size, almost the same components except quadruple the storage and a faster processor for $300 less than the $1299 mac model :/ I mean that was with 0 shopping around, that was legit in the first 4 options of laptops. If I spent even 10m I'm sure I could get similar specs for cheaper than the current $999 that machine is but I can't be bothered when within 5 seconds I found a better performing system for $300 off.

To get the machine I linked to cost as much as the entry level mac you need to select the configuration at $1300 that still has double the storage, a cpu that shits on the macs, an actual nvidia TI graphics with video memory, etc. Like it wins in every single performance based category lol. The mac is for style and looks, it's ok but get out of denial my guy. To get a model of Mac that spec for spec beats the $1300 configuration you need to buy the $2399 model.... are we really going to pretend there isn't a clear difference? Thats a 1k difference, it only gets worse as you look at better specs.

CIapper1 votes

cool, thanks for the rec, ill try that one out when i get a chance!

PositiveMental412 votes

I like how you assume I cant afford a mac at the end bit there gj showing your insecurity. Its a fact literally anything is better than apple their beats, phones, computers literally anything is inferior

Fìzž1 votes

I'm pretty sure the overheating isn't on Riot's side, more or less apple. They're pretty well known for more underhanded tactics to cut corners. Such as using a case and cooling that's not enough and causing overheating.

CIapper1 votes

But i never have fanning problems when im out of league :o

Infernape1 votes

Honestly, I'd dual boot Windows with Bootcamp just for games like League. I doubt Riot's going to optimise their Mac client simply because of how little people use it on that OS compared to Windows.

About the overheating, are you using a MacBook or an iMac? If you're using a MacBook, they're notorious for getting ridiculously hot when they're under load (especially if it's one of the newer ones with a Core i9 processor).

CIapper1 votes

I thought about it but using 50 gigs of storage just for this one game sounds ridiculous. Also it might take more cpu, needing more cooling power, i havent tried so idk.

Im using late 2015 macbook pro w 16gb ram, so when i run the game without too many other stuff in the background, im on around 9gb while playing... still fanning like windows xp xD

Winner Bot1 votes

Jesus, you nerds are arguing Windows Vs Mac in a League of Legends post?

Why can’t people accept the fact that both systems have their pros and cons? Why do people like you have to make it mutually exclusive? Or maybe people who bought Mac knows for fact that Mac sucks at gaming and primarily bought it for working/smoother system/its style, yet OCCASIONALLY wants to play a LoL game to relax? Just because Mac sucks at gaming doesn’t mean Riot has done a good job at optimizing the game for the system. And that population isn’t small at all, which represents a huge profit flow for Riot.

CIapper1 votes

Yeah i expected to receive some ups from Mac users, not people to fight over which os is better xD But yeah, ios seem to show much quicker response and less errors from updates (God, when I owned Windows shit would brick its own).

I hope some day people would start to understand some people dont dedicate their computers to gaming... no diss

Its All Skillzz1 votes

soon you can get a new mac pro with 32 gig of ram 256 gig hard drive for only $5999 what a deal!.

CIapper1 votes

I bought my late 2015 ver with 16g ram and 256 hd for 1200, refurbished xD

Fìzž1 votes

Don't forget about the great priced $1000 aluminum monitor stand for your $4999 dollar monitor! What a deal!

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