PETITION TO STOP SHACO CHANGES ! " NERF "

Cowru·Oct 25, 2016·5 votes·1,533 views

almost all of the shaco players can agree that this change or NERF is not good for us shaco players and we dont want the change comment on this if u agree to get this trending

11 Comments

lolipopevelynnOct 25, 20162 votes

im just going to copy paste this in all the shaco threads rather than repeat myself and so that people actually get a clue:

people are playing him wrong. they are playing the new shaco exactly the same as old shaco, which is understandable if its a habit from being a shaco main. i understand. but dont say something is bad when you are playing it COMPLETELY wrong. for example, you dont max E on new shaco, you max Q first now. so many people are getting that wrong. even when play testers who new to shaco are asking "what do i max first on shaco?" people are still saying max E. NO, you do NOT max E on new shaco. you are fucking yourself hard by doing this because his Q scales pretty hard with his passive now.

3rd, people are not actually taking advantaged of the Q amp + backstab damage. again, this is just an old habbit where people expect to get good Q damage regardless of if its a backstab or not. this is not the case anymore, the only way Q will deal good damage is if you use it in conjunctionn with his backstab passive.

i wont say new shaco doesnt need a few number buffs here and there, but its hard to take someone seriously when they make a judgement on something while at the same time playing it completely wrong... its like when they changed swain. people were still maxing E first out of habit and it took riot like 3 patches to tell them to STOP doing it

AttackOnTeemosOct 25, 20162 votes

All I'm hearing is "OMG they changed my champion now I have to actually learn how to play him again! What will I ever do!"

MorisirOct 26, 20162 votes

When clone dies, if one box dies they all die :p That's pretty shit if you ask me.

EcchiOtakuTMOct 25, 20161 votes

They're a buff, put 2 points into Q then max E if you're AD

Put W->E->W->Q->Q->Max W if AP

2 points into Q is all you need early then everything plays as normal, I do wish that shaco's E didn't start as 5 base damage but that's because his Base AD off-sets it to live's amount.

It's a huge buff to shaco not a nerf at all, if you played it you'd know.

CowruOct 25, 20162 votes

his Q Duration is nerfed his Q Does 20 damage in the beginning his shyv doesnt reduce enemy attack speed by 15% Anymore his box's dont stack his clone box's are dumb and weak so it makes no sense ap shaco is gunna be 100% more viable then ad

AmetDeCryptOct 25, 20161 votes

It only reduced jungle creep attack speed so far as I know. and these ratios are a massive buff to his lategame assassinations because now they are based off of total ad as well as having low life mechanics. If you came out of reading that saying "gosh that's a big nerf man" you need to play some more shaco.

CowruOct 25, 20162 votes

Shaco is ment to be a early game jungler and not late game + the way games are ending as fast as they are he is never going to scale

AmetDeCryptOct 25, 20162 votes

he hasn't lost his early game at all, dude. his early scalings were slightly nerfed but his base AD will now come in to compensate, and now he doesn't need to worry as much about getting a steamroll before he loses relevance because with total ad ratios he's not as feast or famine thereby enhancing his overall lategame.

C4pt ChunkOct 25, 20163 votes

You do realize that the Q cd change is actually better for Shaco right? -3 second increase means that CDR affects it more and if you attack an enemy it reduces the cd by a flat 2.5 seconds. if you even get 20% cdr and attack somebody the cd is lower than 11 seconds would be not to mention 45% reduces it even further. -Stacking 5 boxes on top of each other never really made him a good champion. Stacking boxes is not reliable or a good playstyle so that did not really do jack squat especially since you can still place boxes next to each other. If stacking boxes was the only way you could get kills, learning to actually play champions in a way that is good will help you improve your playstyle. -Regarding the attack speed reduction of monsters removal, this doesn't matter as A. Jungle is going through a massive overhaul B. His boxes took most of the damage when he needed it help anyway & C. His backstab now deals bonus damage to monsters.

And this is just the topping on the cake -How can you call this a nerf when Shaco's Two-Shiv Poison now does % missing hp that goes up to 8%? This right here makes Shaco not worthless as the game moves into lategame.

Damage numbers can ALWAYS be changed if necessary. People saying this killed Shaco need to stop crying honestly.

Edit: Changed it to look nicer as first post was while I was playing a game.

EcchiOtakuTMOct 25, 20162 votes

First and foremost AP is already viable live since protobelt release.

Now AD shaco since AP there's nothing to say since it'll be meta.

Q Stacks with passive and later on grants an immense stealth duration. Passive Increases clear speed no need for monster's AS to even be slowed. His boxes can still be stacked, and obvious his clone's boxes wouldn't offer the same damage since it's ADDITIONALLY added to ulti they still offer damage and cc but it'd be dumb if they did give the same amount of damage as w.

Now for other things you seemed to ignore:

Boxes are castable at longer range making them less wasted during ganks when you barely cast them before an enemy ran out of range.

Q reduces CD on a backstab causing it to be a lower CD than live making it have more reward.

Albeit AD might not have a heavy amount they still carry AP making duration of boxes slightly longer for albeit slight still additional.

E scales off total AD meaning albeit rank 1 is still a dumb 5 since you max it first (2 points in Q before level 6 still) you still match up if not outscale live's with its execution bonus which AD shaco tend to use it for.

R grants boxes meaning even after your ulti you still have a way to still have help with their damage and cc and their damage number is per box so it's moderate not pitiful damage.

lolipopevelynnOct 25, 20162 votes

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his Q Duration is nerfed his Q Does 20 damage in the beginning his shyv doesnt reduce enemy attack speed by 15% Anymore his box's dont stack his clone box's are dumb and weak so it makes no sense ap shaco is gunna be 100% more viable then ad

FYI, his Q duration is BUFFED if you max it. for fucks sake READ SKILL DESCRIPTIONS.