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RIOT'S MATCHMAKING IS SERIOUSLY BROKEN NEEDS FIX

Iordblasterjoker··6 votes·640 views

so today i was ranking (promos to gold 5) AND FOR SOME REASON I AM WITH SILVERS AND THE ENEMY HAS LIKE GOLD4+ and a plat riot fix ur godamn ranking systems. if i am queueing to promos i should be matched with and against golds not this bull shit. http://imgur.com/4kzNDLH

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Dynikus4 votes

I'm really confused why the plat 5 player was there honestly, but the rest was fairly even, and it doesn't appear that he did that well in the game anyway. You had a 3 man premade on your team against a team of 5 solo queue players. The average mmr on your side was around 1480-1500, the enemy team was around 1540, with the outlier being the plat 5 at almost 1700. Riot will place dynamic queue players against people of slightly higher mmr than them since they have an advantage. The system appeared to be working (mostly) as intended.

Iordblasterjoker1 votes

alright thanks for explanation but they shoud remove dynamic q

Treeofwar2 votes

i have a gold mmr and my account is silver 4 its just what your mmr is not your rank

Teslyn2 votes

you sound like you are curious.. let a person who has thought about this stuff for awhile explain the math...

The Yasuo AurelionSol Lucian are queing together.. so they grab to random people: Zac Brand

Riot believes that groups are stronger than solo so they try and put them against solo players.. Jax MMR is at the point he is about to get demoted.. and the other people do have trash MMR on the enemy team.. so then they group you guys together.. and say good luck..

also the reason you lost.. your bot lane was garbage.. and i am guessing that you went down there trying to gank and help and ended up dieing .. when people are getting stomped in lane.. in solo Q... /mute them and focus on winning lanes.

if you get in a game where a lane is feeding hard core or just bad.. you need to let them go and get other lanes going man..

Iordblasterjoker1 votes

yea i recall that our top was winning hard but i should have ganked him alot more my bad on my part

The JigSAW2 votes

No, this is not the solution at all.

The solution is keeping people from one full tier or higher of rank above and below you from being able to fight you. Period. That team had silvers and one gold, while the entire other team was all gold and one plat. That should be an automatic loss prevention for starters. Don't blame this person, blame a really screwed up system that's beyond broken.

Had this group been against people in the same tier, they would have probably had a much better chance. Its easy to call people trash and garbage when I have seen people who are under level 25 be put up in normal and draft game against gold players. Try and think about that for a minute.

Also, its a judgment call on lanes. I once was supposed to leave mid alone when I jungled because the Akali was losing 0-4. I saw how she fought and realized she was better than the stats would have you believe, so despite raging teammates I assisted her. She got one kill and steamrolled, carrying the rest of the game. If they make dumb plays, tell them constructively. If they are good but just camped to death, get down there and even the odds. So if you see a 0/3 ADC get ks'ed by their support, or a 0/3 support who is being 3 on 1'd by the enemy while the ADC runs away at full health, you know they are better than the stats - do something to help out and it'll pay off in the end.

Teslyn2 votes

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No, this is not the solution at all.

The solution is keeping people from one full tier or higher of rank above and below you from being able to fight you. Period. That team had silvers and one gold, while the entire other team was all gold and one plat. That should be an automatic loss prevention for starters. Don't blame this person, blame a really screwed up system that's beyond broken.

Had this group been against people in the same tier, they would have probably had a much better chance. Its easy to call people trash and garbage when I have seen people who are under level 25 be put up in normal and draft game against gold players. Try and think about that for a minute.

Also, its a judgment call on lanes. I once was supposed to leave mid alone when I jungled because the Akali was losing 0-4. I saw how she fought and realized she was better than the stats would have you believe, so despite raging teammates I assisted her. She got one kill and steamrolled, carrying the rest of the game. If they make dumb plays, tell them constructively. If they are good but just camped to death, get down there and even the odds. So if you see a 0/3 ADC get ks'ed by their support, or a 0/3 support who is being 3 on 1'd by the enemy while the ADC runs away at full health, you know they are better than the stats - do something to help out and it'll pay off in the end.

I tried to share what i learned on how i climbed. I re-watched my games and took responsibility for things out of my control. and i thought to myself the reason i am not climbing is myself... because myself is the only person i can change and also the only person who is constant in my games i play. so i should spend effort in trying to figure out how to make myself better instead of looking outside the constant on why i am failing.

so.. i spent time trying to figure out what i was doing wrong. Something i learned is that some people will die. and i cant stop that so i should spend time in other lanes to get those lanes going. Riot made it so if a person keeps dieing they will be worth less gold than a fresh person so i shouldnt panic as much if the enemy is staying in their lane and just farming kills.

if you want me to tell you its everyone elses fault why the game is lost... please tell me how i can fix or make everyone else a better player so when i step into a game i can just be carried instead of improving myself?

The JigSAW1 votes

You can't stop people from making really dumb decisions, that's true. I have over 2300 victories and people still won't listen to me if I tell them about warding around Teemo's bushes and not towerdiving a Riven... but, they think they know everything. I'd love to spend time with higher elo people and learn things to improve, I've always wanted to get better and learn but there are those who truly believe they do no wrong.

Improving yourself improves 20% of the team. The other 80% is beyond your control, unless you are able to take out five people by yourself like some of the really higher elo players can.

Don't take responsibility for something that isn't your fault. The way it is right now is broken, it has to be fixed, and Riot owes an apology to the people that were told this was a fair and legitimate system and "only 5% of premades are matched vs solo players" which I know is bull as I've fought 4/5 person premades 2 times a DAY average. You can tell by their club, and a few other methods such as looking them up and their teams and such after the game or during on various sites. Its a LIE.

RHIN01 votes

You should see our mm over in OCE. Its not uncommon to see diamonds (and sometimes plats) matched with master / challenger players

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