@Meddler Why change Kindred to want crit?

D4 Gu1t4r·2/23/2017, 4:37:19 PM·33 votes·2,899 views

For those who don't know, Meddler mentioned looking into changes to Kindred focused on giving them a reason to build crit.

My question is to why? I've been playing them a lot lately and I've enjoyed that they focus on attack speed over crit or lethality. Why homogenize their build path with other marksmen?

49 Comments

Meep Man2/23/2017, 11:30:31 PM7 votes

Next PBE changes:

"Your bonus damage from Marks can now crit"

Tormentula2/23/2017, 4:45:35 PM6 votes

Cause kindred is a scaling champion with marks, and crit builds are for scaling marksmen. They'd rather see kindred be a late game hyper carry with marks. Additionally black cleaver got changed so they lost one of their more common items for dealing damage.

DarkRitual2/23/2017, 6:30:12 PM5 votes

Kindred's kot is balanced around their mark stacking. You don't always get to stack them well. Like, good luck stacking against Ivern instasmiting a camp. They need a fallback buildpath to where they aren't just an R-bot, that doesn't feel like complete trash to have to build.

Ulquiorra9952/23/2017, 4:52:57 PM4 votes

This would be Vel'Koz all over again. Sure, he is strong even post rework - but now he uses the same cookie-cutter build as other mages. Before when I wanted something different to play in mid I went to Vel'Koz. After the rework not so much. Goddammit Riot, having a different build path is not a bad thing. It makes champions different and more fun.

Ralanr2/23/2017, 4:42:34 PM3 votes

Cause most attack speed items have crit?

OurLestrade2/23/2017, 4:50:32 PM3 votes

She's an AD carry and they're supposed to build crit, emphasis on supposed.

Doctor Fillgood2/24/2017, 4:48:06 AM3 votes

"Because if you aren't building lethality then you aren't supposed to be part of league of legends in the upcoming patch." -Riot

SlashStriker2/23/2017, 11:21:04 PM3 votes

item 1419 item 3153 item 3085 item 3031

item 3085 Attacks up to 3 targets and applies onhit effects. May critically strike to secondary targets Synchronize with item 3031 for crit damage booster

Xela Syab2/24/2017, 2:32:48 AM3 votes

Kindred does need something, she was designed to jungle and she's seen less jungle than Twitch.

Photos of Ghosts2/24/2017, 1:23:36 AM2 votes

I think that Crit is the only damage itemisation they have managed to make be consistently lategame oriented. So, by making her crit-based, they make sure her power curve corresponds to what her passive suggests.

GrReaper962/23/2017, 9:40:44 PM2 votes

Lets just admit Kindred is a mess right now together with Azir Kalista and theyre just gonna do random things to her life they did to those 2 until shes old enough to be reworked

Papa Andrei2/24/2017, 5:13:42 AM2 votes

With other marksmen??? Azir Urgot Teemo Whatchu say?

MunchCrunchLunch2/24/2017, 7:42:59 AM2 votes

its really sad that they can't make on hit a viable option for ranged champions (as it is the only options for some melees and it doesn't scale all that well becasue rageblade sucks)

Sire Hippington2/24/2017, 11:59:28 AM2 votes

Because she synergieses well with hurricane, and riot decided that any adc needs to be crit based bacj in the class update, which is why all items that would help them to do otherwise have been changed into crit. Befor the class update, hurricane supported on-hit heavy builts with AS, aswell as Lifesteal focused builts for draintanking. Now it's a crit item. ER was a very underated caster item, beeing the cheapest of the 80ad items, giving cdr, lifesteal **and manasustain.**Now it gives crit, and even worse, it needs even more crit to actually give cdr and mana. Atleast caster builds have gotten some options with flatpen and now lethality, but they lack proper mana options, cause manamune simply sucks for everyone that isn't ez or maybe urgot.

A Basic Island2/24/2017, 7:54:54 AM1 votes

how does kindred get her damage?

Sammanman2/24/2017, 3:05:09 AM1 votes

Forever wishing kindred could lane. Usless in lane, useless in twisted treeline, borderline useless in aram. Crit builds arent satisfying, not the direction i was hoping for :/. Forever my favorite jungler though.

Dominick Destine2/24/2017, 3:39:21 AM1 votes

She's basically an ADC jungler, that's why.

SirLapse2/23/2017, 4:46:03 PM1 votes

They technically already do favor crit via Runaan's but prioritize applying on-hit effects more. Bloodrazor, BoTRK, Black Cleaver, Runaan's, Frozen Mallet and otherwise defensive building to handle compositions.

If their intention is to make Kindred want Crit DAMAGE items, it's very flawed since it's not working well for current ADCs. However, Kindred would definitely be able to execute it better than they are right now due to not having to lane and crit being very tied to attack speed/auto attacks. I think Meddler is just alluding to a potential buff where Kindred's Q or W can crit or has extra impact based on crit, but who knows for sure?