riot pls explain what it can do now to me in detail... and why you did not opt to just remove it form game XD it has 40 hp now they die to 2 minion autos... i is only for sieging towers with team now? XD even then no way 40 hp gets to the tower less ints 5vtower and team afked XD
Shuyin1782 votesThe point of the item was to help low damage tanks take towers. The way the item was setup before, it could just solo push and solo stall lanes. Now that the voidspawn have shorter travel range and less HP, it now forces the one using it to actually work with it instead of just placing it just to ditch it.
The nerfs helped bring the item more in line with what it was suppose to do as opposed to what it was doing sacrificing the stall nature it had for the intended damage siege nature.
Denims Wrath6663 votesmind as well remove it then? like it does shit damage to turrets, minions, and its stats aren't that great. they just fucked it, when NOONE was even complaining about it
Shuyin1782 votesThe damage actually got a nice buff, butit isn't meant to take the tower by itself or after a few voidspawn, you have to stick with it.
Exsavereah12 votesi just dont understand how supports can even contribute to a win in low elo now though, it was the only thing that helped supports carry out of low elo when people dont shove top or bot but always want to run down mid...
Bodkins Odds2 votesYou are delusional. Supports contribute plenty in low elo. In fact I contribute to my team easier on Taric than I do on my main Tristana. Redemption alone contributes more to teamfights than most ADCs right now.
Exsavereah12 votes[{quoted}](name=Bodkins Odds,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pB6vgNYR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-01-11T21:47:54.588+0000)
You are delusional. Supports contribute plenty in low elo. In fact I contribute to my team easier on Taric than I do on my main Tristana. Redemption alone contributes more to teamfights than most ADCs right now.
why comment and not even comment corectly on what i said. i said when no one shoves out bot or top man.. how then can you just grp and redemp and still even if winning the fight lose top and bot towers. supports struggle hard in this area most cant even go shove..
Bodkins Odds1 votesThen tell your ADC to go push out during the teamfight. He's not going to be able to help anyway and he needs the farm. Also, Banner is a really good support item now.
Exsavereah11 votesand any low dmg tank cant take a tower anyways... even with zzrot.. you can never kill top lane without a gank and with a gank you can take tower with 2 people anyways... it still seems worthless... the cost needs taken down with the nerfs or else there is no way you can buy that without completely ruining your build XD i liked it to help hold a tower when vsing a lane top thats hard to shove out, stuff that pokes you to death like jayce teemo or ken, low dmg tanks suffer in that area hard.. so idk
Exsavereah11 votesbanner.. if there are more then 6 minions it dies ... lul
ChaddyFantome1 votesif anything, this buffs its usage on supports since their itemisation is riddled with Health so now if you are alone because your team is boosted, you can actually contribute to taking objectives despite your shit damage since you don't get to build much unless you play a "support" like Lux.
MorgManBasher1 votesIt's literally useless, people will defend the nerf till a week or 2 later when everyone realizes just how terrible it is Maybe it'll get buffed or maybe it'll just be deleted. It's a shame though, I loved that item on Sion and Morde