i just got 1 shot by a lvl 12 anivia when i was 13 and had 1 item over her she hit q e and like just deleted me from the map her e did 1250 dmg and i was like dafuq is this like tell me what the counterplay to this champ is?! her early game? free ga free elo mana if she is smart she cant possibly die she has waveclear for days like legit nothing i do can beat her im pissed and i demand for something 2 explain what should i do when im against anivia
alasarcher8 votesAnivia is probably one of hardest mages to play, maybe hardest after Azir. Her Q is easiest skillshot to dodge by far. U played Corki and u built Zhonya instead of Maw of Malmortus. ADCs get beasted by mages, its no surprise. How did she even hit u with Q as corki? That guy just outplayed u hard. Sure Anivia has huge damage but its extremely hard to hit backline with her combo.
Twiggles1 votesAnivia is probably one of hardest mages to play, maybe hardest after Azir.
Burds is hard. SQUAAAK!
alasarcher3 votesBurds is hard. SQUAAAK!
Swain, Azir, Anivia, Quinn. Bird power.
Big Lincoln3 votesAnivia is easy as piss to play. What is this delusion that pressing ER to obliterate any squishy target requires any thought whatsoever?
Her one semi-difficult to land skillshot doesn't make the rest of her brainless kit high skill floor.
HoboMcJoe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oohV28oQ,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-03-29T22:00:40.017+0000)
Anivia is easy as piss to play. What is this delusion that pressing ER to obliterate any squishy target requires any thought whatsoever?
Her one semi-difficult to land skillshot doesn't make the rest of her brainless kit high skill floor.
Her ER is easy but pretty much everything else is hard, not just the q. Mana, farming, her wall, positioning, etc. That's why she is considered high skill floor.
Big Lincoln1 voteswall isn't hard to use
positioning isn't a unique skill requirement to her, mana is a problem for most mages early game, farming becomes easy as pressing R at level 6. granted, her AA blows ass, but so does 
and nobody's saying he's a difficult champion to play. If anything, that's the only hard part about them.
HoboMcJoe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oohV28oQ,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-30T05:37:16.204+0000)
wall isn't hard to use
positioning isn't a unique skill requirement to her, mana is a problem for most mages early game, farming becomes easy as pressing R at level 6. granted, her AA blows ass, but so does
it's hard to use well. if you don't know how to use it to combo or split a teamfight then you're not a good anivia. it's super easy to misplace and fuck up your own team or just waste a cooldown
you're right, positioning is not unique to her, but it is much harder on her because she has low mobility and no escapes, and she also needs to be in the right angle for a good wall. she has very low base health (worst at level one, second worst at level 18), and while yes she has the egg it is not a good tradeoff in some stages of the game, in early game it is super weak and in late game everyone has the damage to shred it.
mana problems are also not unique to her, but she has it far worse than most mages, and for this reason you cannot just press r at level 6 to farm because you will run out of mana in 2 waves. her ult only becomes a consistent farming tool when you get your mana items, and if you only get one it remains difficult to manage throughout the entire game
swain is considered easier because he does not have quite as many problems as anivia. he has mana regen built into his passive and his root is his only ability you have to aim. you have to manage mana for his ult but it is easier than managing mana for anivia
Lazypeon1004 votesHer Q is possibly the slowest projectile in the game. Dodge it.
Abuse her weak early game. She can't push well early, has high mana costs, and has to land the very slow Q in order for her E to be worth ising against you. Only thing she has going for her early is her long auto range which is plagued by a horrible attack animation.
If you have done your job well early, you will have delayed her mana items somewhat. Which means while she can clear waves quickly post six, she will go oom.
So early it is easy to not only punish her, but roam as well. She also doesn't do well against enemies with longer range than her since everything she has is short to medium range.
TIH coper3211 votesand what if she is a main and just knows how 2 farm up withouth wasting 2 much mana i havent played her a lot but i can easy live early game and even kill the enemy because if we go some chese lvl 2 or 3 burst trade ill just go into egg kill him with ignite and continue wining :\
Lazypeon1001 votesMy suggestions are always based around what top players are doing. Simply put, if you aren't forcing her to use her mana, you aren't doing your job in lane. Don't be afraid to play agressive pre 6 and damage her. You don't have to always all in, but it is easy to damage her without her being able to trade back easily because her Q is so easy to juse dodge. Get her egg, don't all in her unless she is out of position.
The main issue most people have early against her is all inning her, getting that egg out and dying because they took ignite and a turret shot to pop that egg.
So, play agressive, out push her early, and roam. If she is out of position to on and you can all in her safely, do so. I'm honestly guessing your issue is that last part, though I'm not sure because I haven't seen your games against her. Please try not to take that as an insult, it isn't meant to be one.
TIH coper3211 votesthe problem was i was the adc i had a ziggs mid and he was just how do you say first time or something like that and he couldnt even hit a bomb let alone do something so she just farmed and roamed and she was not even that fed and from out of nowere like deleted me(and i thouth rengo and kha were the only ones that could do 1 combo and kill me)
Lazypeon1001 votesAnivia is a burst mage with good consistent aoe damage if enemies stay in her very obvious ult. I'm not surprised she managed to burst you down. To me, from the sounds of the other posts in the thread and your last post, it sounds like ziggs failed to do his job and your itemization wasn't fit to handle her.
That's not a problem with her. That sounds like a game you would need to try to stall out for proper itemization and for team comps to come into play. I'm not sure who else you had, but anivia with a rengar / khazix is a very odd comp with limited late game potential. Depends on who the support and adc are I guess.
TIH coper3211 votesseems pretty odd to you but did you read im from eune morde didint even know how to do a legit combo their team comp may have a bad late game but every one just got deleted so it didint matter i cant counterbuild vs everyone and where am i supposed 2 be so i dont get hit by a invisible cat and bug and a bird that has a aoe ulti that is half the mid lane ?
Lazypeon1001 votesI understand that there were other things going on in that game which make things difficult. They weren't the topic to your post though, Anivia was, so I was simply addressing her.
You've basically changed the topic from just Anivia, to that specific bad game. Those happen man, but if you want to complain about the game and not the champion then there isn't much to discuss here. None of us were in that game and can tell you exactly what you could do differently.
TIH coper3211 votesdid you see the rest of the enemy team i built zhonya because rengar and khazix went like yolo and then anivia hit me with idk q or something well that dosent really matter she pressed r e and deleted me i didint expect that from a anivia with a not fully stacked rod of ages and my gapclosers are all being used because the whole team was jumping on me
alasarcher1 votesdid you see the rest of the enemy team i built zhonya because rengar and khazix went like yolo and then anivia hit me with idk q or something well that dosent really matter she pressed r e and deleted me i didint expect that from a anivia with a not fully stacked rod of ages and my gapclosers are all being used because the whole team was jumping on me
Well issue is u had no MR. Every mage would delete u with their combo. Syndra, Orianna, Viktor, Annie,Lux, Veigar. They all would beast u.
Sariat11 votesIf their entire team used every single ability on you, then your team should have been able to easily win the fight after that. Sacrifice one for the team.
TIH coper3211 votesthat would be nice if i had anyone that did anything except die kha would just e q and kill everything rengo same drill
TeemoJenkins1 votesPet Peeve: "One Shot" Meaning... shot... once... if a champ uses MULTIPLE abilities, it's not a "ONE SHOT". A big DPS mage should be able to delete people if they unload their full combo... that's why... you don't let them hit you with it. /themoreyouknow
Abyssphere1 votesPet Peeve: "One Shot" Meaning... shot... once... if a champ uses MULTIPLE abilities, it's not a "ONE SHOT". A big DPS mage should be able to delete people if they unload their full combo... that's why... you don't let them hit you with it. /themoreyouknow
I think most people use "one-shot" in the sense that they used their combo once and 100-0'd the enemy. Obviously it's not literally correct but y'know.
LostFr0st1 votesIf you don't get frosted her E does way less damage. She can frost people through hitting either part of her Q or by using her ultimate. If her E is on cd she's not going to do nearly as much damage. If she just used her ult (and ended it) you have 6 seconds to wail on her.
Abyssphere1 votesTell me again how a level 12 Anivia does 1250 damage with her E?
alasarcher1 votesTell me again how a level 12 Anivia does 1250 damage with her E?
She doesnt, if u lolking match history, her highest hit was 1100 damage. And thats probably later cause when game ended she was lvl 18 and almost full build. I think he means Anivia did 1250 damage total with both instances of her Q and her E. Dont forget Anivias Q does damage twice if it goes through u and she detonates it.
Basically at lvl 12 Anivia will have
Q- rank 4- 150 damage +50% AP E- Rank 5 - 175 damage + 50% ap
If she had something like 200 ability power at that moment, she would combo for
Q- 2 hits for 250 damage E- 550 damage crit
500+550 damage= 1050 damage.
TIH coper3211 votesye my point exacly sorry i was 100 dmg behind i guess..
theonlyaustin1 votes[slayer-jinx-catface] NaCl
Catastrop1 votesGet her egg every time possible. She loses all aggression because it's the only safety she has aside from because of abysmal base stats. When she comes in for a RE combo, fight back.
alfavhunter1 votesHow to beat a Mage in lane as ad
Build maw, build QQS
Win with just AAs
TIH coper3211 votesi wish i was against her in the lane i was the adc guess i should have told that in the post sorry im new 2 lol boards
Dark Nephthys1 votesI've been a Anivia main since Season 3 when I started the game and heres basically how to fight/lane against her.
To counter Anivia you need to pick either poke mages (or mages with long skill shots) or people who can wave clear and constantly push her to her tower. Anivia's pre 6 lane phase is strong damage wise, but very very easy to abuse for the enemy team since she is a very easy target with no escape aside from her slow Q or her wall. How you play against her is to constantly push her to her tower and wave clear and force her to cs under turret. Doing this will either make Anivia use a lot of mana to cs, or will lose a lot of cs to the tower since her auto attacking animation is so bad.
Force her to stay under tower, and then you could roam to top/bot and get those lanes fed. It's way to risky for Anivia to try to follow you (especially if you are an assassin or a really strong burst mage) since she would get deleted instantly because she has the lowest base stats in the game on top of no real escapes AND lowest movement speed in the game. Not to mention her mana cost are probably the highest overall in the game, generally forcing her to build 
which means her early/mid game is generally very weak and she relies on scaling into the late game.
Also when you are laning against her, her pre 6 is literally dependant of her landing her Q which is the slowest and easily skill shot to dodge. If you dodge it, then she does no damage and anyone can out-trade her...Hell...mages can out-trade Anivia with nothing but auto attacks if she missed her Q pre 6. Yes her E>R combo does make her a bit more reliable but her E only hits 1 person which means her burst is still some what weak in team fights when you consider the other mages that have multiple high burst AoE skills.