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riot wtf is with match making

Keleka86··3 votes·1,932 views

I have a higher elo in norms I play again plat and diamonds go to ranked do well to get placed but then try ranked on low elo and my teams are so god aweful it makes me want to delete the game. 0/5 top 1/5 jung and 0/6 mid this was the norm for my last 3 games. im new to ranked is this what I have to look forward to feel like abad ass in normal go to ranked and one team is like an African village the other like Korean army? get a clue riot! as adc I can get deleted by almost all roles if they alittle ahead...I need my team riot I need my front line but one little mistake leads to a plethora of feeding. please fix your match making to where its more even team! plz work on balancing the game better too don't just make the game for skins and pros (your money) if you don't have fans you don't have a league... oh and autofills ruin the game think about it we want you to play competitive but lets put you in a role you don't know (higher elo that's fine they should have a better understanding but for us lowbees and newly ranked it totally fucks us) think about it jung and supp autofills are such a cancer its not even funny they just fuck around for 15 min then spam ff until they can go play what they want. thanks for that riot get your shit together riot there is a reason your fan base is declining around the world...I cant wait tell asain gets rid of their hard on for you, see how fast you change your tune.

long story short autofills ruin the game by placing ppl in positions they don't know when we trying to be competitive and your match making needs improvement ive played a lot of other games and have never had such an issue with match making as this one.

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5050BS1 votes

Riot uses two completely different system to make matches in Ranked vs Normals.

Ranked Riot wants most everyone else to say put. That way you play more games.

Everyone wants that Gold skin at the end so they want to make sure most people DONT get it.

Normals has no reward at all so Riot uses a system that is more balanced.

Subdue2 votes

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Riot uses two completely different system to make matches in Ranked vs Normals.

Ranked Riot wants most everyone else to say put. That way you play more games.

Everyone wants that Gold skin at the end so they want to make sure most people DONT get it.

Normals has no reward at all so Riot uses a system that is more balanced.

Here this is for you:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg

@OP:

Normal MMR and Ranked MMR are separate. A lot of high tier players play seriously in Ranked and mess around in Normals, which creates a disparity between their MMRs in each. Furthermore, people who play Normal near exclusively and never venture into Ranked tend to take Normals more seriously, resulting in a relatively higher MMR. As a result, it's entirely possible for you to run into people in Normal that you'd never run into in Ranked,.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

{quoted}

Here this is for you:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg

@OP:

Normal MMR and Ranked MMR are separate. A lot of high tier players play seriously in Ranked and mess around in Normals, which creates a disparity between their MMRs in each. Furthermore, people who play Normal near exclusively and never venture into Ranked tend to take Normals more seriously, resulting in a relatively higher MMR. As a result, it's entirely possible for you to run into people in Normal that you'd never run into in Ranked,.

So wait. You're saying all these people who read a post they disagree with, then look me up so they can call me Bronze trash and dismiss my points... They actually have zero way of knowing my MMR? (I don't play ranked, so while I read as Bronze in past seasons on technicality, I don't actually have a ranked MMR at all.)

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So wait. You're saying all these people who read a post they disagree with, then look me up so they can call me Bronze trash and dismiss my points... They actually have zero way of knowing my MMR? (I don't play ranked, so while I read as Bronze in past seasons on technicality, I don't actually have a ranked MMR at all.)

Well, they have no way of knowing your Normal MMR. However, that being said, like I mentioned above, many people who play Ranked often treat Normal as a place to mess around, experiment with new champions and builds, and just in general take the mode less seriously. Plus, as there are no restrictions on who you can queue up with in Normals, Normal MMR is not all that valuable. There are just too many things that can and do dilute it.

Kai Guy2 votes

Murder. Its because you post stuff like this that I offered to teach you about Elo and MMR. Can you please stop being wrong? Example.

Normals has no reward at all so Riot uses a system that is more balanced.

Please, Stop lying to people. I know most of its ignorance, that your pulling from personal experience. THis is me giving you the benefit of the doubt that your intent is not to mislead people, but end of the day I am still going to point out your wrong and your providing incorrect information.

Riot uses two completely different system to make matches in Ranked vs Normals

Wrong. MMR MM is used for All ques. The restrictions are all that changes. Theres no reason to not use MMR MM.

Ranked Riot wants most everyone else to say put. That way you play more games.

Wrong. The system wants players distributed into skill ranges. ITS A BASIC PART OF ELO THAT IT TAKES INFINITLY LONG FOR THE AVRAGE PLAYER TO CLIMB! You simply can not add more to eternity. Do you get it? There are no gains trying to extend the climb, it already takes forever for over 99% of everbody ever.

Everyone wants that Gold skin at the end so they want to make sure most people DONT get it.

How does it serve as a mark of acheivment if a majority of people get it? Also you wanna check how many folks earned the skin? Pretty easy. Step 1. Find a ladder distribution on a site that uses Riots API. Step 2. Look at account distribution. Step 3. Basic, freaking , math. Count the % for all players Gold and above. Right now that's 45.93%. So you have to preform about 5% better then the average player to get gold.

Yes... how exclusive. Much rigged 54.07% of the players cant earn this skin. How unfair! 5% above the 50 percentile for some ones average performance is just a brutal wall to overcome [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Im still waiting for your reply last time I made the effort to try and educate you. Untill you start learning expect to see this question a lot. What do you not understand? How can I help fix the gap in your knowledge?

I gave you multiple publications for MMR. Clearly you did not read them or you don't understand it. I cant help you with the first if you wont educate yourself but if you need help with understanding the concepts I will do my best.

Hell dude, I gave you the literal BOOK on the topic of Elo, written by the guy himself. Also I happen to own so if you wanna save the $20 I can convey the information in it to you for free.

Also... don't give me that white box BS again. You clearly don't believe that some one needs to know every detail of the system to discuss it, you know almost nothing about the topic and wont shut up about it. Please don't make me call you out as a hypocrite, I want you to learn.

If you cant provide proof, if you cant show math, if you don't have evidence that's objective, you have nothing.

Your getting close to 700 games. Do you really think that your some magic exception to mathematical principles that your results are truly unfair?

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