More ranked divisions/tiers for lower elo players

onelostpuppy·6/10/2017, 9:23:37 PM·34 votes·3,601 views

I was just wondering, i remember when there was only gold silver and bronze. SInce then the roster of divisions has grown to include diamond platinum challenger and master, as that gives a nice diversity to the top players. What about the 70-80% of players who are in bronze and silver? Do we not deserve more diversity? i understand this would add more leagues to climb to get to diamond or challenger(not that i will ever make it there lol)

Currently since season 2 i have been stuck in bronze 5, sometimes i can make it to bronze 1. it doesnt matter how many promotional matches i win, i get bronze 5 every season. Why even try to win the promos? I know im a better player now than i was when i was in season 2.

if we had more divisions beneath bronze, it could make it more time consuming for smurfs to bump thier buddies up divisions, it would give lower elo players more substance, as they would be able to actually move through some divisions and feel like they were actually getting better.

2 or three divisions beneath bronze would also move the "elo hell" that "doesnt exist" down a couple divisions.

why is there no "Griefer division" i understand there are penalties to going afk and leaving games, but they dont mean much to people who dont care anyways, or that can just make a smurft and be right back into bronze griefing. if you had a division you were placed into that was aside from any other division and didnt matter what your elo is, a division like low priority q, that you can only get out of by playing so many games without any incident before you get back to the division you were moved from.

Say a silver player and a gold player both afk for 3 matches in one week, they would be placed in this separate division until they played so many games without afk, and none of it would count towards anything except getting back to where they left off.

the disparity of skill level between one b5 player and another b5 player can be significant, right ive been playing for 5 years, and you have new people who have played one champion only and just hit level 30 playing and get b5.

This is the exact same reason you made higher division tiers, do lower elo players not deserve the same attention? Do lower elo players not deserve a better indication of where thier skills actually lie?

Honestly i have no care if i move up or down, as long as when i play ranked im moving. a couple more divisions would give that diversity without affecting the better players that you seem to focus on ie platinum and up.

If there were more divisions this could also remove the need to base the promos off of an ELO from last year. Everyone every season could ACTUALLY START FRESH instead of being haunted by every past mistake they ever made.

The day i turned level 30 in season 2 i started playing ranked, and i did really bad, so halfway through the season i quit and waited for the next season. But low and behold, i had botched my MMR and ELO so much, that even winning all 5 games the next season i got bronze 4 anyways. As it has been for every season ever since. Last season i believe i won 7/10 promo's i got bronze 4 lol. this season i win 5/10 i get b5. like..... How do you think that made me feel? i dont even want to rank anymore ever. and i know a lot of people that feel the same way. i win half my games and yet i am the lowest of the low.

How many players do you have that dont even rank at all because they know they will be in bronze and never move? if you had more divisions like i said, it would add more substance for the majority of your players, it could possibly get people playing ranked who would be scared to be "stuck" in a league.

Oh and another thing i find super ironic, is that my smurf is ranked gold 3, but i cant climb out of bronze on my main. How is that possible? Because there is no such thing as "elo hell" right?

If you look at the statistics, Bronze and Silver make up 70%-80% of the player base.... Why would you not want to add lower divisions to round those numbers out a bit? 2-3 divisions underneath bronze would make each division under gold only 10-20% of the player base, Meaning you would actually be in a league with people who are in your skill level.

I understand all the arguments that say well if your bronze and you want to be gold it shouldnt be that hard, maybe for you, but everyone isnt the same.... that is why there is a ranking system in the first place. By giving more tiers to lower level players you end up having more consistent games. IE you are playing with people who make the same mistakes you make, all the time. It gives you perspective, you learn what areas you need to work on to move to the next tier. As it is bronze has so many people with so many different problems it can be hard to figure out where to start. Especially for new players.

85 Comments

GamblerOfLives6/10/2017, 9:25:45 PM21 votes

yes

wood division would be great

Swiftstrike46/10/2017, 9:34:14 PM9 votes

Most lower elo players are in EXACTLY the division they belong in. They don't need additional tiers. Most players that play enough can get into Silver pretty easily.

Most players that stick to 2 champions and 2 roles only will hit Gold V with NO problems.

Silver and Bronze players champion hop, play hard champions, emphasize kills, or don't play enough. Anyone can get to gold by playing just 2 or 3 simple champions and ONLY 2 roles.

Most players in silver or bronze don't do that.

BigBellBrute6/10/2017, 11:36:24 PM8 votes

Hear Hear. More divisions. We bronzies need someone to look down upon.

five oh tree 6/11/2017, 12:18:54 AM3 votes

Simple: add Iron division below bronze.

Brain Errör 4046/11/2017, 10:16:03 AM3 votes

I'm totally down for new divisions. I say add another 4-5 divisions under bronze.

-Wood -Paper -Copper -Tin -Iron

Lexyy6/10/2017, 10:36:13 PM3 votes

Yesss, wood division. Finally!

Teemodanegro6/14/2017, 10:57:38 PM3 votes

The problem is that no matter what it'll be a bell curve. So it really doesn't matter where you move the curve on the graph, players are still bad and generalized.

Cocho6/10/2017, 10:37:13 PM3 votes

I agree, 70% of the playerbase in 2 divisions just sounds dumb to start of with lol

Dukues6/12/2017, 1:55:34 PM2 votes

"Oh and another thing i find super ironic, is that my smurf is ranked gold 3, but i cant climb out of bronze on my main. How is that possible? Because there is no such thing as "elo hell" right?"

... there's no way this is true and if it is there is more going on than what your saying. I used to be for more division but at the end of the day it won't change anything it will only make an already long climb longer. Games are matched based on mmr so whether your bronze 5 with super low mmr or bronze 6 or 7 (if added) you still going to get matched in same games.

Embertine6/15/2017, 3:16:57 PM1 votes

YES! MAKE WOOD DIVISION A THING!!

If Riot would make wood Division than I could actually say I'm in wood division and not be lying!

OHminus6/11/2017, 12:04:29 PM1 votes

....are you trying to make climbing more tedious and difficult?

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ6/11/2017, 5:54:39 PM1 votes

Bro if you're a better player just make a new account, start from scratch, and rank up with positive MMR from the start. Trust me, it'll be way easier to climb on the next account.

Hallbuster6/14/2017, 11:12:53 PM1 votes

I'm in bronze 1 myself and will admit Elo hell is only real to a very vey small degree. There's only one case where that applies, when you get an entire team of feeders. However, this is incredibly, incredibly rare. It's happened once in the past 20 games and I brushed it aside. Is it easy, no, you need champions that scale well and can turn into a hyper carry late game, Vladimir and Vayne would be some good examples.

This isn't to say I'm a perfect player, I sometimes tilt too, which is why I never pull double standards and blames my team for their 1/8.

I can carry one feeder, maybe 2, 3 is a struggle but 4 is impossible.

Maybe we can duo when you have time :P.

ZT Xperimentor6/15/2017, 12:22:44 AM1 votes

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