I'm just not sure tbh, I just think a lot of top laners are dead. hmm Only champions that are viable are for EXAMPLE: Jax, Riven, Kayle ect Where did Ornn go? Shen? Kind of Gnar, not really? Maokai? I also just think that Top lane is the weakest if you don't play the viable champions :/? Put your opinions please, just wondering.
GayFluffyUnicorn17 votesCasually scrolling through the topladder of EUW. Out of 20 people we have 2 junglers, several adc mains, one support, and several mid mains. The first toplaner is satorius at rank 36. The rest is adc and mid mains. With a support and jungler sprinkled here and there.
Satorius most played champ is jayce. Jayce, some vlad, some ryze and a boris game here and there. 46 is the next toplaner. Most played champ irelia who is just busted cuz most of the midlane mains are irelia players too. Then comes bwipo at 54 the first to play an actual conqueror champ but not a bruiser who plays riven.
According to boards toplane is the most busted role and conq is super op and everyone plays toplane and super conq toplaners cuz they are all super mega busted. According to boards bruiser meta for 2 years now. So you can make up your own mind. You either rely on toplane players who tell u how useless and shit toplane actual is to play or you listen to low elo boards user who get stomped by conq vladimir in silver 6 and claim that conq is just super op and so are bruisers.
When you have like 20 ADC mains before the first toplane main. And he doesn't even play a bruiser. When you have three toplane mains in 55 spots of 5 roles. If every role has equal chances to carry you expect it to be atleast 10 toplane mains. We are talking about the best players on the server who use every advantage they can get because the skill level between them is very narrow yet you have five times and more adc and mid mains. HM.
YUUKI VK4 votesCasually scrolling through the topladder of EUW. Out of 20 people we have 2 junglers, several adc mains, one support, and several mid mains. The first toplaner is satorius at rank 36. The rest is adc and mid mains. With a support and jungler sprinkled here and there.
Satorius most played champ is jayce. Jayce, some vlad, some ryze and a boris game here and there. 46 is the next toplaner. Most played champ irelia who is just busted cuz most of the midlane mains are irelia players too. Then comes bwipo at 54 the first to play an actual conqueror champ but not a bruiser who plays riven.
According to boards toplane is the most busted role and conq is super op and everyone plays toplane and super conq toplaners cuz they are all super mega busted. According to boards bruiser meta for 2 years now. So you can make up your own mind. You either rely on toplane players who tell u how useless and shit toplane actual is to play or you listen to low elo boards user who get stomped by conq vladimir in silver 6 and claim that conq is just super op and so are bruisers.
When you have like 20 ADC mains before the first toplane main. And he doesn't even play a bruiser. When you have three toplane mains in 55 spots of 5 roles. If every role has equal chances to carry you expect it to be atleast 10 toplane mains. We are talking about the best players on the server who use every advantage they can get because the skill level between them is very narrow yet you have five times and more adc and mid mains. HM.
the rune is not op at all, a select few champs are total horseshit to begin with and make it seem like an op rune
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesYes.
Sir Saltarin2 votesFunny, when some months ago it was the opposite and only a few ADC mains were on the top of challenger of majority of the servers we were told that it doesn't matter and to stop crying.
Now it's the opposite and you whin about it, ironic.
SuperTopLFBottom5 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oA1A4iNG,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-04-18T10:50:47.542+0000)
Funny, when some months ago it was the opposite and only a few ADC mains were on the top of challenger of majority of the servers we were told that it doesn't matter and to stop crying.
Now it's the opposite and you whin about it, ironic.
Yes even when adcs were "bad" they were still above toplaners. Makes you think. Or atleast it should.
Sir Saltarin2 votesBut they were not above Toplaners some months ago
GayFluffyUnicorn10 votesYes, they were.
You can claim it as much as you want, top ranks were still filled with kai'sa and especially lucian players. Even when adcs were "unplayable". Korea especially. Because koreans just picked kai'sa and lucian and got freelo as always while euw and NA cried and cried and benched themselves because they can only play one champion.
And the big difference is whzat does it matter "some months ago" adcs are back were they were the last five years. At the top forever and ever the only class 100% mandatory every game on every team. Where is toplane now? The same as a year before. Great.
BigFBear4 votesCasually scrolling through the topladder of EUW. Out of 20 people we have 2 junglers, several adc mains, one support, and several mid mains. The first toplaner is satorius at rank 36. The rest is adc and mid mains. With a support and jungler sprinkled here and there.
Satorius most played champ is jayce. Jayce, some vlad, some ryze and a boris game here and there. 46 is the next toplaner. Most played champ irelia who is just busted cuz most of the midlane mains are irelia players too. Then comes bwipo at 54 the first to play an actual conqueror champ but not a bruiser who plays riven.
According to boards toplane is the most busted role and conq is super op and everyone plays toplane and super conq toplaners cuz they are all super mega busted. According to boards bruiser meta for 2 years now. So you can make up your own mind. You either rely on toplane players who tell u how useless and shit toplane actual is to play or you listen to low elo boards user who get stomped by conq vladimir in silver 6 and claim that conq is just super op and so are bruisers.
When you have like 20 ADC mains before the first toplane main. And he doesn't even play a bruiser. When you have three toplane mains in 55 spots of 5 roles. If every role has equal chances to carry you expect it to be atleast 10 toplane mains. We are talking about the best players on the server who use every advantage they can get because the skill level between them is very narrow yet you have five times and more adc and mid mains. HM.
No on on boards said that Toplane is op and Bruisers are busted.
The ones who complain are other toplaner who get fucked from the only few viable/op toplaners: Jax, Kayle, Riven, Heca or/and from Conqueror.
Ofc there are many frustrated people in a lane when there are only a handful champs who dominate this lane. I would be pissed too if only 4 Junglers would shit on every other Jungler.
Ragnaveil5 votesGraves during his prime.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesLiterally scroll through the comments in the top posts.
Everyday you have a conq post.
Everywhere in the comments you read "bruser op". "bruser meta".
Shrek Luigi1 votesboris is strong toplaner, comrade, Большое спасибо :^)
Jklien6 votesI agree with this, totally.
Aatrox Airlines6 votestoplane is literally just pick ranged champs or pick champs who can deal with ranged for way too long
Thefrostyviking1 votesRanged is picked to crap on the melee lanebullies though, at least that was my impression.
Yets42401 votesThe top pickrate and winrate toplaners are all ranged. They are getting first picked, blind picked, and picked against each other.
Thefrostyviking1 votesLooking at Korean masters pickrates in toplane the top then are in this order : 
A honorable mention for olaf at 2% pickrate and nearly 73% winrate, even Riven at the 12th most played only has 2,5% pickrate and 54% winrate.
But all the other picks from vlad and up have between 5 to 10% pickrate, kennen at 4,5% and nauti at 3,3%.
Now the common trend for the melee picks were that they actually win most their ranged matchups, against Ryze in particular, except Akali who gets dunked by him. However Akali seems to dunk melee matchups instead except against Riven.
So.....melee picks based on whatever beats the ranged picks while the ranged picks are based on beating the remaining toplane melee rooster and some of the other ranged picks.
Exception being GP who is the best against Vlad and Kennen but he isnt quite melee or ranged.
Yets42401 votesThe first 5 are all ranged, or psuedo ranged, with playstyles very similar to ranged champions. Of the other five, you have two overtuned divers who can abuse the currently overpowered runes crowding out top lane, as well as who synergize very well with the poor itemization balance (cough
cough) to be more powerful than they should be, while yes, doing quite well against the ranged cancer because they are able to abuse multiple overpowered systems at the same time, with the interaction being beneficial as well. What next but two more ranged and safe champions! Finally, we have the single true melee of the entire 10, a tank who's picked against ranged laners to stall and freeze the lane, while hoping to be more useful in teamfights, but essentially giving away the lane for free to his opponent.
To recap, ranged champions and how strong they are currently are deciding 10 out of the top 10 picks, with 7 of those being champions who abuse others inability to trade with them due to their high range, lack of resources/mana costs, and mobility, two of them being simultaneous Conqueror and abusers, and pretty much the only viable tank to pick against the opressive and ranged picks in top lane-- who loses most of his lanes, and is picked for teamfighting to hopefully make up for how little ranged toplaners contribute to the teamfights.
Thefrostyviking1 votesAight,,,,,Sylas, Irelia, renekton and Jax are not true melee, gotcha.
Then for tanks and conqueror......like i am actually amazed Nautilus even exists up there, toplane is super 1v1 focused and most tanks cant survive a conqueror user in that scenario, not even barely.
Then for "abusing broken systems, items&runes" whatnot......like this is true for every lane you know? Everyone will bandwagon on the most powerful options available and any possible counters to give themselves max chances of winning and stomping.
Abuse is unintended, use is intended.
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesNot really. You can freely pick ryze and vlad. Who can stop them? Aatrox can handle vlad maybe. But then vlad gets the jungler and you got outscaled once vlad gets his hands on kindlegem. Because lategame hypercarry teamfight aoe mage assassin draintank ap bruiser.
So your only options against vlad, ryze, kennen top are other ranged champions. Either one of the three against each other or jayce.
Thefrostyviking1 votesRyze loses into Irelia from what i know, Olaf and Camilie should be good as well........Olaf should be really great.
Vlad is the tough one though, to beat him you either gotta explode his face before he can heal, out sustain him or just not be killable.
GP, Riven and Nasus are the best according to league of graphs but none of these are played much.
Funny thing tho? Irelia, GP and Nasus lose against lanebully picks like Darius,Aatrox and Kled......and those three lose against ranged.
Infernape4 votesGnar is being kept in the gutter because his kit is aids to fight against. Riot gives him small buffs every now and again.
Saezio2 votesAlso, Pro Play. I mean, riven's kit is not exactly enjoyable to play against and she hasn't been gutted at all.
Daddy Ants3 votesI perm ban Kennen when I'm top lane.
Yami No Ignis3 votesYea, Meta top lane champs are god tier, and regular top laner champs are dogshit.
Aatrox Airlines2 votesmeta top lane champs = 1 bruiser (riven) and ranged champs
Thefrostyviking1 votesHeca, Jax, Irelia and renekton are all in the top 10 of Korean diamond, in addition to Riven.
At least pickrate wise.
Yets42401 votesAccording to RIOT's subclasses, Riven is a skirmisher, like Yasuo, Ekko, Fiora, Jax, etc who are a subclass of light offensive champions most closely related to assassins.
The brusier/fighter class contains the juggernaut and diver subclasses, of which none are META in toplane currently.
Sir Saltarin2 votesOnly champions that are viable are for EXAMPLE: Jax, Riven, Kayle ect Where did Ornn go? Shen? Kind of Gnar, not really? Maokai?
And if it was the opposite you would cry about:
Only champions that are viable are for EXAMPLE: Shen, Gnar, Maokai ect Where did Jax go? Shen? Kind of Riven, not really? Kayle?
Mordepool1 votesHow come the most diverse role is so fukin stale.
Pandemic Punch1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oA1A4iNG,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-18T11:46:17.426+0000)
And if it was the opposite you would cry about:
It is so stupid when people assume it is the same people crying about the opposite argument. Just stop.
y0r1ck1 votesI been saying it since season 3, top laners are inherently sadistic.
Doge20201 votesI think that as long as you know what you are doing and can pull it off correctly then any champ (mainly talking about the “dead” toplaners and not offmeta picks) is viable rn. Nasus for example can quite easily get fucked by most or all of the top laners out there, but if you play the lane correctly then you can dominate the lane/game with a very strong mid game powerspike. Honestly this would be harder in high elo, but for the main part of low elo this concept of “knowledge can win against OP picks” is usually true. The existence of one-tricks shows that this is true lol.
General Esdeath 1 votesShen is still picked quite often, as are 
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Bloodrage Shadow1 votesTop lane tanks are useless in soloq. You pick a tank, they pick something that abuses Conqueror and congrats you lose to them at all points in the game assuming they aren't a complete monkey.
If you don't pick Riven/Jax/Irelia/Kayle/Hecarim you play the coinflip and pray your bot lane doesn't lose at 5 minutes.
People only think Top Lane is a busted role because of like 5-6 champs being stupidly op since like preseason (Riven's broken state is a western phenomenon btw lul).
HobbzDaSlayer1 votesI'm trash but i enjoy playing Ornn. Olaf too squishy nowadays
