how can you allow players with 10 wins 50 loses who were master last season to be d5 0lp?

Drunken Yasuo v2··64 votes·3,435 views

eloboosted players are still not beeing adressed because "everybody has a bad game"

simply a joke thinking you can carry players with a 0,2 K/D on their account 0 point fucking 2 an average K/D of 0.6 kills 15,0 deaths and 2,4 assists 10w50l and still allowed to be diamond? are you joking?

43 Comments

SpearKnimnos25 votes

I mean he got carried 10 games so it is possible ;)

but ye, if he says nothing in chat he wont get banned simply as that riot doesnt really care about these kind of players if theyre not famous imo

AwesomeChad3 votes

its all about that reputation.

bob3444 votes

as long as the $$$ flows they dont have anything to worry about, they dont listen to their community anyways (soloq for example)

Xonra4 votes

This pretty much goes along with that reddit question I saw that essentially asked, why does riot prioritize verbal issues (racism, toxicity etc) over other forms of negative behavior and so on. Basically if it isn't there for their little chat filter bot to see then Riot can just play out of sight out of mind.

Basically Riot doesn't care about anything but verbal toxicity by non-popular streamers. It took XWX trying to sell his Riot given pro account before Riot finally did something about his very obvious boosting.

I hate to bring up that guy (who I won't name) that got banned recently, but he had 5 (I've heard 7 but I only know of 5) accounts permanently banned and still Riot was letting this guy make more, as he streamed daily. We have multiple cases of pro players trolling and being VERY toxic even in chat on stream, popular...erm...heavy chested streamers (I don't know a better way to describe them without leaving out their name) who were well known for intentionally feeding and trolling that were never banned.

Riot can tow the PR line all they want, and give us those all popular "stats", but it is fairly obvious that if they can't record it in a word document (ie chat logs) then they take it less seriously. Why do you think we will never have voice chat? They have no way to police it (and have said as much).

Troll for Trump2 votes

Tyler1 had 19 permanantly banned accounts.

Xonra1 votes

Not surprised one way or another, nor do I know enough to comment. Is mostly why I didn't directly name. I only know 100% of 5, but I'd believe it if you told me 300. I watched the guy just for the "O_O is this for real?!" factor on two different occasions.

I'll just leave it at that lol

Odinakos4 votes

It is because chat toxicity is the most obvious and easily trackable offence. There is a difference beween unintentional and intentional feeding. If you want a good example, look at Hashinshin. He has a handful of extreme scores (both feeding and his lane opponent doing so) because of his highly aggresive laning style and picks. That turns the game into camping his lane (for both junglers) and that leads to extreme scores on both scales.

As for voice chat. I dont want it for a community that has proven again and again that can be highly toxic. I remember when HON launched and our mid got first blood due to jungler. I said "gj mid" and jungler started heavily flaming me because i didnt mentioned him. Oh boy how quick i disabled that for ever (the whole 2 weeks i played!). The same will happen if LoL implements that and will only use it for my premades. And that rarely.

I am all for bringing solo queue again (and trully make it solo, no duos). But blaming Rito for "not caring about other toxic behavour other than verbal abuse" seems like an excuse for people flaming when their team gives first blood.

PbJMpP4xzk

you sir are right and thats why the chat box shouldnt even exist just like in hearthstone bam probelme fixed now fix the real probleme with trolls

GenghisEmo3 votes

But it allows 14/1/19 bronzies to stay bronze? Or Plts into Silver (dont get me wrong, my ffriend climbed out, but took long). Yet another friend, possible booster, that DQ OP, climbed to Gold while im bronze and i can 1v1 him while counters me and i play smarter overall (he is good mechanically, bit prone to tilt and S5 Silver plays XD).

Bârd2 votes
Only Play Darius2 votes

Even fed the game that he won. People like him belong in Bronze (or better yet forced to play normals until they show competency )

Maszii1 votes

Wait what Guinsoo on Cait/Kalista? Is that seriously a thing now? Building Guinsoo on every adc...

Joquan1 votes

It's not good. Building Guinsoo's makes you lose another valuable item. Only really works on Tristana and maybe caitlyn, but you need hurricane on her so having two AS items instead of something else doesn't sound too good.

Maszii2 votes

Seen it on Ashes too, god i hate Guinsoo ^^.

Only Play Darius2 votes

If anything it's the high elos who should be dropping at 0 LP, low elo is the one that (if any) should be given such protections as you are far more likely to have teammates who are genuine shit and might cost you that one game you couldn't afford to lose. I don't know how they can call the system competitive if diamonds really can perform that poorly and still keep their border.

Badfish21 votes

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If anything it's the high elos who should be dropping at 0 LP, low elo is the one that (if any) should be given such protections as you are far more likely to have teammates who are genuine shit and might cost you that one game you couldn't afford to lose. I don't know how they can call the system competitive if diamonds really can perform that poorly and still keep their border.

THANK YOU. "Can't afford to lose." That's exactly the kind of game that I live for. That "bottom of the 9th" kind of feeling.

But if it were baseball, my left fielder would be that 5 year old in the lobby. You know, the one that figured out how to launch that cool blue-and-yellow L shape from the desktop and then click random buttons until loaded into a lobby. My short stop is constantly throwing a fit; standing in the dugout with his arms crossed in a huff, yelling at the rest of the team and talking shit as the opponent runner goes by. Fuckin, my pitcher was just called up from being a minor-league pinch runner - but it's cool cuz he has a sweet unique uniform.

What was my point...

Right. "Can't afford to lose." Sucks when you can't count on solo queue to provide you with a decent assortment of players.

Maximum Morde2 votes

Sounds like hes mastered the art of pissing you off.

The Deckowner2 votes

the entire ladder is broken Im in silver and I see people who are clearly woodV.

Robert Smith1 votes

there is decay so if he cant win enough games he will be demoted into gold

Troll for Trump3 votes

And by the time he gets demoted, how many games will he have ruined? What's to make sure he doesn't get boosted again to bring him back up?

Axxuka1 votes

The same system made have to beat alot of Gold IV and even some gold III as soon as I Was silver II...

Isn't the point being able to beat Silver II elos to proove that I'm better than Them and get silver I ??? Why do the system makes me beat Gold IVs in order to be silver I.

I did reach Gold V soon enough, but it was a pain. I'm always against one tier or two above the one I'm in. The point is climbing by beating those of the same level. Why do I have to beat of the next tiers already when I'm not there yet ? Just makes ranking up a pain in the ass..

Xonra6 votes

The MMR is more and more loose as the seasons go on, and the DQ has made the "hidden MMR" even more all over the place.

You might at worst last season get a gold 5 with silver 2 MMR or a Bronze 5 with silver 5 MMR and so on.

This season you could be in a game of plats and face a gold 4 or lower, as the system starts trying to fill in the blanks with whatever it can, plus the guys that are not 100% at your rank, but it tries to "Even out" the MMR like it does in normal games.

This is why ranked is a cluster f*** right now, because the ranks mean jack squat but that is all you see, and all that actually matters at the end of the season.

Alüe1 votes

Tell me about it -.- I'm finding that the player base I'm laning against is anywhere from p4 to d3

ImmortalBloodCY1 votes

Hmm... Maybe because they suck.

CppL1 votes

What? didint you heared? elo boosting is legal in season 6.so whats your problem?

DrCyanide1 votes

master last season

So now that elo boosting is legal they're doing worse than they were last year?

This isn't a Dynamic Queue problem, this is an account being sold problem.

Badfish21 votes

im pretty fucking heated about this too. Season 6 just seems like a huge waste of time. I main support and I have games with between 60-90% Kill Participation. I average more than 20 assists a game (or at least I did before today's 4-game feeding frenzy I had to endure and could only manage 1 or 2 assists). Some of the assists are just from throwing a buff or a heal or something, but a large majority of them come from me, the support, setting my team up to win team fights.

And yet I get stuck in the shit-show that is Bronze because of those feeding frenzies that my soloq team mates like to throw my way.

Maszii1 votes

Then dont play support in the lower elo that is bronze, play something free like a tryn and splitpush your way to the easy victory.

Badfish21 votes

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Then dont play support in the lower elo that is bronze, play something free like a tryn and splitpush your way to the easy victory.

aint a half bad idea.

Maszii2 votes

I dont wanna talk you out of supporting dude, but if you wanna climb in that elo you have to carry yourself out instead depending on your team. So take an easy champ mid/top which can carry you out.

Badfish21 votes

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I dont wanna talk you out of supporting dude, but if you wanna climb in that elo you have to carry yourself out instead depending on your team. So take an easy champ mid/top which can carry you out.

You're not talking me out of it. That was a good suggestion. I can't climb by hoping I get an ADC that doesn't feed or can actually farm.

I've done well with Garen top and Kayle top/mid. Gonna take Trynd to norms to see if he's someone else I can try.

If I can climb out of Silver like that, I'll dip back to support in Gold.

Maszii1 votes

Well i myself am no tryn player, but people seem to not be able to handle his splitpush. There will be one dude going back which you can most of the time easy dive under any turret :p. Just gotta pick a champ which can snowball hard and force the other team to react to you. Zed is also a nice pick.

Badfish21 votes

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Well i myself am no tryn player, but people seem to not be able to handle his splitpush. There will be one dude going back which you can most of the time easy dive under any turret :p. Just gotta pick a champ which can snowball hard and force the other team to react to you. Zed is also a nice pick.

I played three normal games with Trynd after reading your suggestion. I think I had a grand total of around 100 CS and 1 kill between those three games. I think I'm done trying to play Tryndamere XD

However I managed to find a good, steady group of players and we've been climbing like bosses.

Auroramancer1 votes

I don't think you understand how the ranked system works...

10W50L @ D5 is not possible. This is hyperbole. Be more realistic if you wanna make a point.

Ludovico1 votes

If I think about it, it can be possible.

  1. A player gets boosted to high master and his MMR is stable around that lv.
  2. Placements come and he is pretty sure to get placed Plat 1.
  3. Win 6 games and get promoted to Dia 5.
  4. Lose many games, but because it takes rly long for the Master-MMR to get down to Plat-MMR he stays Dia 5.

Or am I missing something rly obvious :P?

angery pout1 votes

LP loss for all those losses would've gotten him demoted at some point. I'm pretty sure there is exaggeration somewhere. Lucky me I'm not high enough that I only deal with the occasional booster. No boosted players in my games.

Auroramancer1 votes

Or am I missing something rly obvious :P?

Tier-demotion-shielding only accounts for like 8 successive losses in a row @ 0 LP. Not to mention that a 16.7% win rate would absolutely plummet his MMR in like 20 games.

It wouldn't work.

PiVoRx1 votes

i was d1 early this seasson but cause im solo player i cant leave d5 anymore also, looking at my friend list, there are two options, everyone is either master or d5, nothing in between

Ragaren1 votes

Just got out of a game where the enemy lucian was playing like he was in master tier/ challenger. Looked at lolking, the account was bronze for 3 seasons and all of a sudden season 6 it sky rockets to platinum and is still going.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Sold acct most likely.

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

Wow don't be toxic dude.That guy who is d5 ,may be in a losing and tilted he will come back when the rest of the community stop flaming him

Badfish21 votes

I just dodged a queue because our top banned my pick, blamed his brother, then picked alistar top and blamed his brother again.

I'm so sick of this kind of shit. Riot, please stop counting your $100 bill stacks and FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

PbJMpP4xzk1 votes

say hi to the dynamic Q effects LOL

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