Why isn't Black Market Brawlers in the rotating game queue?

No Mans Sky··165 votes·7,601 views

BMB was an amazing gamemode. I loved the new items, the razorfins, the Gangplank announcer, every part of it. Why not bring it back? It sure would be a lot more fun than Legend Of The Poro King

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yukumari29 votes

Agreed. Bring back BMB

Bârd15 votes

Black Market Brawlers was a large scale test for potential new items and mechanics, to see which ones would work well in the game.

Out of it, we got item 3742.

If/When they do it again, they will need to have come up with a few new items to throw into the mix, maybe a new brawler.

DeathToEcchi4 votes

^^ this

It's also worth considering that there have been huge itemization changes since it appeared.

Insanity Song14 votes

wait its not?! What the hell?!

Rivini11 votes

I didn't care much at all about the new items in the mode, with exception to the one AP item that gave MS when hitting an enemy with a spell, but what I really liked was being able to customize and upgrade my minions. I played the mode a lot just for that, and also the music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtbX0E7k08

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THIS MUSIC BACK AS AN OPTION, RIOT?!

Shadula6 votes

I personally didn't like it. But it's not like if it was in rotating queue it would hurt me, I just wouldn't play it.

bill846 votes

They should really just make a gamemode that is just Ascension, Hexakill, urf, black market brawlers, and all for one all at the same time.

Irelia Bot5 votes

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They should really just make a gamemode that is just Ascension, Hexakill, urf, black market brawlers, and all for one all at the same time.

against doombots

softest boy1 votes

Imagine a doom bot ascending.

shivers

Devack The Holy1 votes

Well, I'm not sleeping tonight. Thanks for that.

pictures Doom Bot Galio Ascended

LichKing2341 votes

adds ascended doom bot veigar and annie with ascended razor fins

Devack The Holy2 votes

You... You don't want me to sleep ever again, do you?

LichKing2341 votes

now that you mention it

adds doom bot malz to the mix and makes all his voidlings ascended with a 6 stacked ascended doom bot chogath

Devack The Holy1 votes

Listen, I know your name is "LichKing" but dear GOD, that's fucking evil.

LichKing2341 votes

i havent even gotten started yet

sends in doom bot morgana, luz and ez and makes it so all ascended doom bots do more dmg and all have 50% dmg reduction with Ascended razorfins and makes it so all your spels and autos do only 1 dmg

Devack The Holy1 votes

Your real name wouldn't happen to be Arthas or Ner'zul, would it?

LichKing2341 votes

maybe but you will never know mortal sends in all da doombots ascended with now 80% dmg reduction and with ascended razorfins with now 60% dmg reduction

Vider1 votes

I'm dying, please don't stop this is so funny but horrific [slayer-jinx-wink] [zombie-nunu-tears]

LichKing2341 votes

prepare for the doom bot rape train all aboard woo woo

Morganana5 votes

I thought it was the worst game mode ever, wish wed have doom bots instead of hexakill

Augusta4 votes

WHERES DOOM BOTS

Leetri4 votes

They'd most likely have to do some major recoding to get them working again.

LichKing2341 votes

not really riot most likely keeps the code on file to make things easier (probley on a flash drive or on the server somewhere)

Leetri1 votes

The old doombots were made for the old map dozens of patches ago, I wouldn't be surprised if the code didn't work at all with the current version of the game.

LichKing2341 votes

well thing is since the rift is basicly the same its just updated models if anything more than likely they still use the same code all they would have to do is tweak the doom bots codes here and there if anything plus since doom bots are just an harder ai with broken bullshit pictures Doom bot veigar and malz plus i have a feeling they already fixed doom bots code for SR i mean they had like a whole year to do it

Leetri1 votes

I mean, why would they fix it? They're busy working on other things, so spending a LOT of time updating Doom Bots for the potential chance that it might be used in the next couple of years seems wasteful. Doom Bots was one of the most coding intensive things they've ever done in League.

LichKing2341 votes

i think you miss understood me there my friend i ment that with the SR update its nothing mroe than an improved model of the old one nothing more nothing less meaning it wouldnt be hard to fix the coding of doom bots ( not for permant but for rotation) since again doom bots are nothing more than a more bs ai and yeah creating a new ai is hard as hell.

what im saying is that if a problem arises in doom bots ai code for the new SR it wouldnt be hard to fix for rotation since the new SR again is nothing more than a new model (with alot of the same coding from the old Sr and yes i know they used alot of spaghetti code so maybe new Sr is somewhat more toned down but again not hard to fix

Leetri1 votes

It's not the map itself, it's the game as an entirety. Have you ever modded a game? A lot of mods simply stop working completely when the game updates because of file changes. Sometimes they have to completely rewrite the entire mod because of for example file structures changing. That happened with Minecraft. There's not many large 1.9 mods out because they changed a lot of how they work in 1.8. It takes too much time to completely rewrite the large mods so they never updated past 1.7.

LichKing2341 votes

yeah i have modded a game before and yes im fully aware that if the game has a huge update some mods can stop working. but what im saying is riot has to update everything including code just incase they want to bring something back so more than likely they have updated the doom bots code (if it needed updating again speculation) for rotation not permanent. and again even if new summoners rift code is different than old summoners rift its not by much if anything the only codes that i would think that would change is the new monsters code, turret, and the adding of the rift herald and maybe new baron and dragons other than that everythings pretty much the same minion spawn time and all that jazz.

Leetri1 votes

I feel like you missed my argument. WHY spend a LOT of time updating their most coding intensive project ever that might have to be completely rewritten from the base up when they could spend the same time updating 5 different modes? It's not a question about if they could do it (they will eventually), it's whether or not it's worth spending all that time and resources updating a single mode this early. The game has changed a lot more than you think in the last 2 years.

LichKing2341 votes

no i get where your comming from but heres the thing with that how do we know they havent updated it already we dont knwo what goes on at rito headquarters i mean they apperently had played for rotation que to be a thing so whos to say they havent already updated doom bots code plus if they didnt they would disappoint alot of doom bot fans ( like myself) and it would be a waste as doom bots if ir ember correctly even got lcs players and they could barely beat them and doom bots was one of the best game modes to happen that and URf so more than likely they have updated the code for doom boots and it might be in rotation maybe not soon or maybe next week who knows .

Fatalitý3 votes

I personally hated it, all it was, was summoners rift with new items and minions seemed like a pretty basic game of summoners rift to me

DarkRitual5 votes

Poro King is just ARAM with a giant poro minion. Sounds like a fair trade for BMB.

AtheosisX1 votes

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Poro King is just ARAM with a giant poro minion. Sounds like a fair trade for BMB.

Both suck.

DarkRitual2 votes

Your opinion has been noted.

Lady Hammerlock6 votes

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I personally hated it, all it was, was summoners rift with new items and minions seemed like a pretty basic game of summoners rift to me

And thats the wonder of it your playing a normal game only with a few extra things

Birdamus Prime2 votes

I loved BMB, and would really like to see the ideas from it brought to SR permanently.

The game could use more strategic level plays (more objectives like dragon/baron/scuttle/ect), and the ability to buff your minions rather than improve your own power would be a welcome change in my opinion. But they've actively removed mechanics that did that in the past, so I don't expect it to happen.

Awkward Couch2 votes

IIRC they wanted to make sure that the rotating game mode would be better established (bugs and whatnot) then adding in BMB. I can try and find the comment if you want.

CoffeeDave2 votes

As a Nami main, I loved Staff of Flowing Water. Mana Regen, MR and Movement Speed boost while in the river? Yes please. Best part is you can build it on a support's budget too.

LichKing2341 votes

the support budget unless your "kill securing" you dont make much XD personly i prefered matrys gambit on leona basicly take 60% of incoming dmg from an ally i put it on..... one of the best tank support items ever

HoodRatTingz2 votes

give this man a daamn cookie!!

Jet Sett1 votes

Razorfins, NO NOT THE RAZORFINS! I WON'T GO BACK, YOU CAN'T MAKE ME, I WON'T GO BACK MID, NOOOOOOOO!

WolfBV9 votes

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Razorfins, NO NOT THE RAZORFINS! I WON'T GO BACK, YOU CAN'T MAKE ME, I WON'T GO BACK MID, NOOOOOOOO!

Prepare your anus for the fully leveled up baron buffed 10 razor fins coming after you.

LichKing2342 votes

{quoted}

Razorfins, NO NOT THE RAZORFINS! I WON'T GO BACK, YOU CAN'T MAKE ME, I WON'T GO BACK MID, NOOOOOOOO!

YOU ARE GOING MID AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT

Jet Sett1 votes

Where's my Ranger's Trailblazer? I'm taking TF back to the jungle! Hell, I'll go jungle WITHOUT IT! I WILL NOT GO BACK TO THE RAZORFINS!

LichKing2341 votes

grabs and scales to mid lane you are going to suffer just liek the rest of.... FACE YOUR DOOM LIKE A MAN

Jet Sett2 votes

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grabs and scales to mid lane you are going to suffer just liek the rest of.... FACE YOUR DOOM LIKE A MAN

http://i.imgur.com/KlICAtR.jpg?1

LichKing2341 votes

you do know the doom bots also go in the jungle right ... have fun fighting doom bot ascended morgana :D

billxx1 votes

Maybe it wasn't popular enough to warrant it? I personally never played it, it looked too complicated, so maybe the cost of putting it on the rotation outweighs the potential gain.

LichKing2342 votes

it wasnt complicated at all it jsut added alot of items and the ablity to customize your minions and upgrade them. plus the items where.... ok to say the least some where great some where pain and some where situational

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