Magic pen is better in EVERY SINGLE WAY!!!1!
It applies 100% immediately, is dirt cheap, is on FUCKING BOOTS!, and doesn't have a long start up time.
But please, tell me more about how a stat that takes until level 18 to be truly powerful is OP
vOmvbrawfU3 votesBecause mages can't hit you every half a second, unless they're ryze or cass. And nobody likes those champs anyway.
Laughing Fish1 votesDude, Cass is the most balanced mage in the game. She doesn't relay on obscene, free burst. It actually takes time to deal damage, and her ult has a LOT of counterplay.
vOmvbrawfU1 votesI never said she wasn't. Just nobody likes her lol.
GULAG 4 U1 votesDon't spread logic here, anything that isn't brain dead easy to counter and doesn't challenge your normal play style (jhin) is toxic!!!!1!1!
GULAG 4 U1 votesExcept they cc and burst you from range all day long...?
vOmvbrawfU1 votesYeah, if you have absolutely no HP or MR.
MrHaZeYo1 votesYou realize those two are two of the most popular AP mids atm right?
JamesTheMage171 votesYou realize those two are two of the most popular AP mids atm right?
I know, right?
vOmvbrawfU2 votesRyze is #6 and Cass is #20 in terms of playrate.
No, I didn't realize being #20 is one of the most popular mid laners.
MrHaZeYo1 votesMaybe I should of said 2 of the strongest AP mids at the highest level.
Still number 6 is pretty popular.
vOmvbrawfU1 votesEven talking out the AD mids, Cass is still like 15th or 16th, which isn't all that popular. Ryze, yes. Because Ryze nukes people while also being machine gun mage.
MrHaZeYo1 votesLB, Ori, Ryze, Cass, and Syndra are your standard 5 AP champions in the pro scene. Once the Tank meta returns (if it does) Cass will also be a staple then cause she can damage tanks well with her Q/W E combo.
She can also kite well with Ryalis
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesthere are only 3 items in game that give magic pen
there are alot of items that give armor pen or lethality
MaeDoSan2 votesPlease Riot : Flat before % for all types of pen
dominusx2 votes woo so broken so many Mpene items XD.... i hate mages but their flat pene items are absolute trash compared to the lethality items.
dominusx1 votesjust because you are my boy. imma let you go on this one mighty fish that laughs
GULAG 4 U1 votesAnd you forget runes and mastered. Mages with boots and mp pen runes and master Jew deal true damage to anyone without bonus MR.
KiritoErenMikasa1 votes
is basically magic pen. Also this
MaeDoSan1 votesMaybe Riot knows this thats why they refuse to nerf lethality
Teémò1 votesHaven't seen you on in a while their fish. I think it's because lethality applies both to auto's and abilities, well for magic pen, unless their auto's use magic 
Though unless your 
you can't really spam abilities enough to get a ton of use out of it.
Micbran1 votesMPen only applies on spells usually and Liandry's is meh for some people? It's a weird item. There's a lot of sources of armor pen as well.
