IS THERE SERIOUSLY NO WAY TO SUBMIT FEEDBACK TO RIOT???

qwer1234df··8 votes·10,059 views

I have been trying to get in contact with riot for 10 days now. Kinda getting frustrating how resistant they are to accepting feedback (although on their website they claim to "humbly encourage, seek, and accept feedback").

My name is David. I have been playing league of legends since season 3. League is my favorite game. I have probably played over 4000 league games in the last 5 years. I particularly enjoy playing aram, ranked, and normals.

I always try to be supportive of my teammates in league. I have never received a chat restriction or a ban on any of my accounts. In seasons 3 and 4 I held an honor crest for honorable opponent. I want to be a positive influence on the want to continue to be a positive influence on the culture of the game; however, recently I have struggled to find the same enjoyment that I have experienced when playing the game over the last 5 years.

Initially I thought that I just needed to take a break from playing league. For this reason, I stopped playing league for 4 months last summer. However, I came back to the game to still find it less enjoyable than it had been previously. Now I am confident that the game is less enjoyable to me because of the recent changes with champion releases and gamemodes.

In particular, the release of Zoe was an obvious mistake in my opinion from riot games. So many montages have been released on youtube about Zoe 1 shots...because that is how the champion is designed. Being one shot is one of the most tilting experiences in league and hurts the overall gameplay experience/culture of the game.

Another mistake in my opinion was the release of dark harvest. Dark harvest may be balanced in terms of win percentages; however, the rune itself is designed to encourage 1 shots. This increases the probability of players tilting and really hurts the gameplay experience.

Finally, I think that I am having less fun in URF because of the the recent changes. For me it was much more enjoyable to play whatever champ i wanted rather than being forced to play a random champ. It is much easier for me to tilt when I lose because I don't get an op champ rather than when I lose because the enemy team chose op champs. Also, the snowball is fun when you hit it, but it is also one of the most tilting things to die from a snowball or to miss your snowball, especially on jg camps. Finally, the idea of snowdown skin champs is cool, but it doesnt work because all the games feel the same.

I have been playing this game for 5 years so I doubt it is me that has changed. The game has changed recently and I think that it is for the worse. I have enjoyed several changes in league, particularly the introduction of trinkets, the introduction of scuttle crab, the removal of deathfire grasp, and the changes to dragon/baron/rift herald. These changes kept the game interesting and new to me, but lately the changes have made me tilt harder, flame teammates, and leave games.

I hope you carefully consider how your changes impact the player enjoyment of the game. Recently for me they have made the game worse, not better. I think one simple solution to the URF problem would be to introduce 2 game modes, one regular URF and one snowdown ARURF. Also the introduction of ff @ 10 for URF could be a really good idea.

All I want from riot is for them to say "I hear you". But so far all I have gotten is "the balance team will look at the board if they happen to desire your feedback". Comment below if you think that wanting Riot to spend 1 minute to read my post is an unreasonable request.

Thanks,

David

20 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

Sorry about that. The original post had been removed as you continued spamming constantly thus it was simply easier to mass delete. I had assumed you stopped by the time I got to deleting them, but after deleting I realized that you had continued posting, hence every one of your threads was mass deleted and you were issued a suspension. If you'd like me to delete this and undelete the original one that I inadvertently deleted in the second pass-thru, I'd be happy to, but seeing as this is currently active and people are discussing I feel it'd be better to leave this one up.

qwer1234df1 votes

Thanks I appreciate your explanation. Unfortunately I did not see your message immediately because I was using a self created program to post on my behalf. I will edit my post and delete the first paragraph

Binding Eclipse2 votes

Hi, David. You sound like an entitled prick.

LostFr0st1 votes

Firstly, It's really cool that the feedback is written out nicely and in paragraphs so it's easy to read.

In particular, the release of Zoe was an obvious mistake in my opinion from riot games. So many montages have been released on youtube about Zoe 1 shots...because that is how the champion is designed. Being one shot is one of the most tilting experiences in league and hurts the overall gameplay experience/culture of the game.

I agree with it being tilting to get one-shot. Hopefully they can tune her properly in the coming patch so it's less un-fun for the enemy.

Comment below if you think that wanting Riot to spend 1 minute to read my post is an unreasonable request.

I don't think it's unreasonable to want someone to read the post, but it's pretty unreasonable to demand a written answer, especially immediately after posting.

qwer1234df1 votes

I agree that it is unreasonable to demand a written answer, especially immediately after posting.

I posted 10 days ago and did not receive any indication that riot had seen what I had to say. Maybe they did. Who knows. I certainly don't. I also messaged player support and did not receive any indication that riot desired to hear what I had to say. Maybe they do. Who knows. I would love to find out.

Maybe I should just keep my opinions to myself...I just expected more from a well renowned company that advertises that they listen to their playerbase.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I agree that it is unreasonable to demand a written answer, especially immediately after posting.

I posted 10 days ago and did not receive any indication that riot had seen what I had to say. Maybe they did. Who knows. I certainly don't. I also messaged player support and did not receive any indication that riot desired to hear what I had to say. Maybe they do. Who knows. I would love to find out.

Maybe I should just keep my opinions to myself...I just expected more from a well renowned company that advertises that they listen to their playerbase.

you know.... you could just post something that is well written and has some thought put into it and be done with it. Expecting that your post gets some form of response is stupid. Riot cannot take time to respond to every single little post that is made. Your best bet is to just not spam. If your post is well received then it has a bigger chance of someone at Riot at least reading it.

Just because they listen to their playerbase doesn't mean they have to respond. This game has hundreds of thousand people playing maybe even millions. Imagine how many people actually want to have their opinions be heard and to have some form of acknowledgement that is was actually read... the best they would do is have a bot do the same automated response to every thread they read because otherwise it's not feasible in the slightest to respond to every single thread and every single question and every single little thing that someone posts. That is just not possible not matter how you look at it.

qwer1234df1 votes

I'm going to use the most viewed post as my basis (https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard): 125,000 users on the forum * one post/user/5 years * 1 year/365 days * 1 day/24 hours = 2.85 posts/hour .... you respond to more posts than that on average all by yourself

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I'm going to use the most viewed post as my basis (https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n3f5kn7V-as-a-diamond-silver-elo-is-surprisingly-hard): 125,000 users on the forum * one post/user/5 years * 1 year/365 days * 1 day/24 hours = 2.85 posts/hour .... you respond to more posts than that on average all by yourself

ok... can you please tell me how many threads are done every single day? not just from here but from reddit, twitter, facebook and every single other media site that Riot frequents.

When you do that i want you to tell me how many of those threads about something like UI things, champion balance, items, skins, the store, RP related things, E-sports and whatnot and then tell me how many people at Riot you think actually has the time to do their job then sit down and both read AND respond to every single one of those threads...

hell i am going to make it even easier on you. Just on the gameplay boards i want you to go and post a meaningful response, which means not something dumb or quick like "i agree" or "this is stupid" or anything like that but something actually meaningful. I want you to go and do that to every single thread that has gotten a response in the last 2 days at the bare minimum. Tell me how long does that take you. Then you can come here and demand others to respond to every single little thing that is posted here.

qwer1234df1 votes

You are just proving my point lol. Boards are not an effective way of receiving feedback. I agree

LostFr0st1 votes

{quoted}

I agree that it is unreasonable to demand a written answer, especially immediately after posting.

I posted 10 days ago and did not receive any indication that riot had seen what I had to say. Maybe they did. Who knows. I certainly don't. I also messaged player support and did not receive any indication that riot desired to hear what I had to say. Maybe they do. Who knows. I would love to find out.

Can roughly tell by views of the post. The higher the number, technically the greater chance a rioter saw the post.

Maybe I should just keep my opinions to myself...I just expected more from a well renowned company that advertises that they listen to their playerbase.

Listening doesn't mean they need to respond :P Of course I'm joking, but getting other posters to agree with the points (demonstrating the opinion is shared) and upvote the post is the best way of getting seen.

Count Zubat1 votes

Few facts for you: 1st - spamming isn't allowed. You are not the only person on this forum who wants to post something, so don't act like you should be treated better than the others. Not to mention, by spamming post over and over again, you are actually not helping yourself in any way: quite the opposite, you only annoy any other user of these boards, and those users are going to downvote you, while it would be best for you if you want your post to be noticed by Rioter to have a lot of upvotes, so your post can be highlighted in hot section. 2nd - yes, there is a way to submit feedback: these boards and reddit to list few. But the fact that you post here or on reddit doesn't mean that any rioter has to respond to your post. But, even if no rioter responds, that doesn't neccesarily mean no rioter read your post.

Riot isn't obliged in any way to respond to any feedback. The fact they respond anyways just shows that they do care about players' opinions (well, at least to some extend), but demanding them to respond to EVERYTHING, any feedback posted by any person from playerbase consisting of millions of players is a little too much, don't you think? Not to mention, some of the questions you have asked might have been already answered by Riot on any form of social media.

qwer1234df1 votes

Thx for the facts. I am on this forum because Riot told me that the boards are the best way to communicate with them. I know they aren't required to respond. They aren't required to do anything. Simply allowing people to post to a forum doesn't qualify as accepting feedback in my opinion. Maybe you have a different definition.

xelaker1 votes

you don't follow many games do you? constant and instant feedback at any given time is never gonna happen. spamming the boards like a child isn't gonna change anything.

qwer1234df1 votes

Not with that attitude it won't. You are probably the guy that keeps spamming ff in the chat at 10 min aren't you lol.

xelaker1 votes

Hot dog you are an entitled little child. Don't bother responding, I don't argue with children.

qwer1234df2 votes

Yet you just did.

Kai Guy1 votes

Look for relevant posts in Dev Corner. Boards are mostly for players to talk to players, its there in the culture guidelines.

URF loses fun after a few days when the meta of whats most broken appears, I don't blame riot for not whole heartedly embracing it. Id be ok if they went the war craft 3 route and added some more custom game modes and made it 1 of them (bring back dominion as your at it. Optional download maps, patch them every month or 2 if at all.) Dark harvest is for farm to win champions. Zoe can 1 shot but so can many other champions. Players learned how to deal with them, they will adapt to zoe. Personally I have not seen enough tanks body block her Q for their asleep squishy to cut out her burst on a target as often as I like. Often times that 1 shot is non factor if some one moves up, block the Q. Its then got less distance and no true damage. Her CDs are a bit much but its not a kit that cant be balanced or adapted to.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

Honestly, this post is really really off in reality. Past seasons had way more one-shots. Sword of the divine rengar, the abominable pre-rework khazix, AP yi, Deathfire leblanc, hell even AP SION.

qwer1234df1 votes

I agree and those are champs that riot agreed were not healthy for the game so why wouldn't they have the same opinions for zoe

3likebird1 votes

they simply dont want feedback.. why? because the game is imbalanced and never will be, I had about a year break from it and I come back just to experience no change to $#@#$ Yasuop and Jinx........ Whats the point of adding new champs if you cant balance the game..... every single match has same champions because, may aswell remove that useless champs I mean you are fed as $#%^ Nidalee and suddenly there appears 0/8 Yasuop that takes bloody triple kill because he clicked R................. HOW IS THAT BALANCED, WHAT IS THE POINT OF PLAYING THIS?!

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