[IDEA] How to deal with a person who never connects

Teemo Bukkake·Jun 4, 2015·28 votes·1,653 views

In Counter Strike: GO before the match starts is the warmup. This gives a chance for everyone in the game to connect. Once everyone connects, the game starts and everyone is happy. If someone doesn't connect, The game never starts. The game ends and nobody wins

This system of the game never starting would help provide a fair game instead of having a 4v5.

Of course a punishment would still be issued for the person who never connects (being low prios or whatever)

This is just me speaking my mind. Maybe this idea could pick up or something.

27 Comments

Arcade AndrewJun 4, 20157 votes

"Of course a punishment would still be issued for the person who never connects (being low prios or whatever)"

If they dont connect to a game and therefore dont ruin a game I see no reason they should be punished, I never had problems in the old days when riot implemented punishments for dodging Q for "To many people are free dodging cus they dont like something"

Teemo BukkakeJun 4, 20151 votes

Yeah, I guess that is right. Though it would be a big inconvenience for everyone

waiting 30 years for a queue and you have to wait again

ElJanitorFrankJun 4, 20153 votes

They should be punished, they wasted everyones time up to that point.

In a ranked draft game, this can be 10 minutes including the loading times, that is definitely enough to get put into a low priority queue in my opinion.

Arcade AndrewJun 4, 20152 votes

And with the new system Ive had to deal with more dodges than I ever did with the old system where nobody was afraid to leave Que

it doesnt reflect in game behavior or play, and shouldn't be punished (unless of course they abuse it in which case an automated system would pick up that you dodge WAYYYYYYY to much)

Summonerrr 1Jun 4, 20151 votes

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"Of course a punishment would still be issued for the person who never connects (being low prios or whatever)"

If they dont connect to a game and therefore dont ruin a game I see no reason they should be punished, I never had problems in the old days when riot implemented punishments for dodging Q for "To many people are free dodging cus they dont like something"

how is instigating a 4v5 NOT ruining a game?

Arcade AndrewJun 5, 20151 votes

they are not instigating a 4v5, they never connected to the game therefore with OP's idea there would never be a 4v5 game to be played,

OP's idea is "somebody doesnt connect the match wont start- punish those who didnt connect"

under OP's idea games would no longer start if somebody didnt connect in load screen

but they shouldnt be punished for it

Teemo BukkakeJun 5, 20151 votes

inb4: Aww, I've never been called OP before

**TridentSPQR (NA) **

To add to the OP: maybe if the person doesn't connect, the loading screen waits for an additional 3 minutes (just incase someone's computer just crashed and needed a quick restart) unless the player has a recent history of leaving games

I really like the idea that if someone never connects that it would wait a little bit.

LankPantsJun 5, 20151 votes

If they dont connect to a game and therefore dont ruin a game I see no reason they should be punished, I never had problems in the old days when riot implemented punishments for dodging Q for "To many people are free dodging cus they dont like something"

People would leave in the waiting lobby in ranked if they didn't like their team if there was no punishment.

Teemo BukkakeJun 5, 20151 votes

True. A system like this would be too easy to abuse.

LankPantsJun 5, 20151 votes

The system isn't innately abusable, just if you don't punish for abuse.

If you had an appropriate LP loss and a 15 minute que timer (slightly higher than que dodge since you wasted more time) it would be fine. I don't think anyone would get too pissed off about it since they'd just lose if the system wasn't in place.

DragonfaceJun 4, 20153 votes

Unfortunately, though I'd love this idea, it'd be VERY easy to abuse.

Teemo BukkakeJun 4, 20151 votes

Mind elaborating? I'm open to criticism Gangplank

SociopathFriendJun 4, 20154 votes

"I don't like my team- I will now disconnect"

Teemo BukkakeJun 4, 20151 votes

Yeah, though im talking about in the loading screen. Like, when the game starts and someone DCs the team is shit outta luck

Nameless VoiceJun 4, 20151 votes

But they do this already.

With the proposed system, the player doing it would get their leaver penalty, but the other players wouldn't have to play a 5v4, or be punished for losing one.

IcyPepperJun 5, 20151 votes

Can't we already do that by dodging? With this system

Of course a punishment would still be issued for the person who never connects (being low prios or whatever)

you wouldn't get off scott free. And neither you would by dodging, which gives you a short waiting time (and it would be more convenient than waiting until the loading screen anyway).

DragonfaceJun 4, 20152 votes

Frevkin kinda had it right. If you duo with someone who is low ELO and doesn't care, and you're trying to rise up, your friend can just wait until game gets started, and dodge.

ElJanitorFrankJun 4, 20152 votes

Why would you be duoing with someone like that? This doesn't make sense to me.

That isn't abusing this proposed system, that is doing something else entirely.

This system would prevent some 4v5s, not stop all of them.

DragonfaceJun 6, 20151 votes

Not really. Playing with someone who doesn't care about their rank and only cares about having fun duoing with someone who cares about their rank and wants to rank up, would mean you get a bad match, and the dude who doesn't care about rank just dodges, and bam, you get a free reroll. There is literally no system for ranked that you can dream of that isn't able to abused that will allow you to not lose LP in certain situations.

FragglerocJun 4, 20153 votes

Any idea is better than the current system now imo.

9baksQuJhbJun 4, 20152 votes

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Teemo BukkakeJun 5, 20151 votes

Oh you ;^)

TrídentJun 5, 20152 votes

To add to the OP: maybe if the person doesn't connect, the loading screen waits for an additional 3 minutes (just incase someone's computer just crashed and needed a quick restart) unless the player has a recent history of leaving games

There is 1 freebie per 10 games, where no punishment is given for not connecting. However, on the second time you must wait 10 minutes after starting the queue in order to get to the actual Q On the third, you have it for 5 games. On the fourth, the punishments of disconnecting for over 5 minutes from the middle of the game occur, starting from what the punishment would be for leaving 3 games

Teemo BukkakeJun 5, 20152 votes

I actually really like that idea

There have been multiple times when I had to restart my League Client and ended up getting into the game four minutes late.

bvcderrttyyhjjjkJun 4, 20151 votes

OMG please let this be a thing. I don't want to lose rankeds because of AFKs. Just demote the AFker of an an entire freaking division and let everyone else just walk away, or at least win/lose greatly reduced amounts of LP.

Summonerrr 1Jun 5, 20151 votes

That's my point. I think the queue dodging timeout is perfectly fine, Had to go through 4-5 champ selects on release day due to people dodging because they couldn't autolock Ekko before the other guy, if there wasn't a timeout it'd be at least 20.

I see no reason not to tack on a similar measure to this idea, considering the fact that by not connecting you've wasted a minimum of 5 or so minutes (discounting the time it takes to find another match, etc.) of other people's time.

I'm not saying they should be banned by any means, but if you're going to make the game cancel after matching because one person bailed, that kind of behavior needs to be discouraged, unintentional or not.