How to Climb

legean12··1 votes·1,797 views

Hello guys, i wanna ask you for some tips or i dont know what is that for. I started playing Xayah about 4 moths ago i have read some tips but it didn't help me at all. So I am currently in Silver III my highest rank is Gold V and i was in Gold V 3 hours at most then again Silver i play Lee sin and Kha'zix in jungle, Syndra,Annie,Zed on mid Lane, Top lane Cammile, Riven(not too much),bot lane Xayah and Lucian most of it only Xayah. Support Thresh and Bard.I have try every single words from Pro players and gulid tips everything but i just cannot climb when i am no bot lane i get poor jungle when i play jungle i get poor top when i mean poor its AFK, Troll, or Non-Team player.I just wanna ask you how and with what you climb up from Low elo rank like Silver or Gold.

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FullmuteAll play1 votes

Well before asking for tips, I think it makes sense to outlay what tips have you been given and what tips have you followed, so you don't read same tips again. Because tips are pretty much the same, but execution is what really needs to be accomplished by the player.

Seiferoth1 votes

Play Malzahar.

Hencho1011 votes

This is VERY LONG, so feel free to read or skip, up to you! :)

While i may only be Gold 3 ATM, at one point i was 1 game off of plat, but ended up getting an AFK due to a power outage so RIP that idea. Back in season 5, i ended up being placed in bronze 4, but climed my way all the way up to silver 5, then was silver 1 in season 6, gold 5 in season 7 and climbing this season; so i at least have some experience with getting out of elos and ranks. I will try and give you tips for each lane, but i am a ADC/Jg player mostly with a little bit of mid, so i will have more tips for those lanes than others. Ill also give you a few tips of champs if you've listed them and i play them.

The champs you listed, some of them i would avoid playing.

For top i would avoid playing Riven. I still have yet to see a good riven in gold or lower, and it's rare to see them be any good until diamond. Tips for top, I'm not a top main, but i would just try and play something tanky and not feed. Farm under tower if you have to and look for TP ganks around the map.

For Jungle i would Avoid playing Lee Sin. While he's an okay jungle, he can and WILL fall off and be useless late game. With him not having green smite or sightstone, it's hard to get reliable wards for ward hops. Unless you can land 90%+ of you're Qs, he has no good way in, and you HAVE to be able to Insec 100% of the time or there's little point in playing him. If you're jungle then here's tips that i do all the time. You NEED to get the Scuddle crabs. They give 100+ gold and a shit ton of XP, Usually people will go for the top side 1st, so if you think you can fight them, you can try and go for top side sudds. If you are a very shitty early game jungle, DO NOT risk it, go for bot side after your buff. Make sure you give your team the kills. While you may not have as much fun, it's how you will climb. If you're team is fed then they can carry you, if you have all the kills then they can focus you and you die then you have a bunch of under fed teamates that won't do anything. If you can, focus on ganking bot.** ADCs are THE STRONGEST CARRIES IN THE GAME**do not ignore that lane. If the other ADC gets ahead, you will have a hell of a hard time winning, while if you can get YOUR ADC fed, they can carry a game.

I play Kha'Zix as well, so if you're playing him focus on trying to get a strong early game lead. Unless the other team's jungle is a strong dueler(XinZhao Jax Pantheon Udyr as an example) keep strong vision up and some good map awarness, but feel free to try and be in the other team's jungle, both counter jungling and killing the other team's jungle. Back if if there's a MIA lane though, you have you're jump for a reason. As an early game kha if you KNOW you're limits and know how to teamfight almost perfectly, feel free to take the early game kills. That is something i do and it will work most of the time. It's a high risk(as if you fuck up or don't know how to play when ahead, you WILL lose the whole game for you're team) but a VERY high reward(I'm talking like 1 shotting 2 squishys in the back line and winning the game for your team). Unless you understand the other team, what the game is looking like and you're limits, just give kills to your teamates.

For Mid i would be worried about Zed, but he's not that hard. As long as you understand the big parts of his kit he can be played at lower ranks and do fine(He's one of my mains). For my mid lane tips, roam. Roaming is a huge part of mid, shove the minion wave and try and come gank a pushed up bot lane or top, try and be a mini-jungle. Even if you're match up is bad, then roam and you can get fed.

Zed is one of my best mid laners so here's some tips i got for him. Keep track of his shadows, you can juke like a fucking MAD MAN if you can keep track of shadows. If you're facing someone like an Oriana or Lux, you know then when you come out of your ult, a CC spell will be coming right at you. Before you ult onto someone, trow out a Shadow with you're W and hop back the SECOND you get out of your ult. People will almost never expect it and as long as you can use you're Abilitie's off your shadow, you can get some fucking sexy kills. Mind you it will be hard to 100--0 people with out the standard tripple Q combo, so poke them low before trying to engage. If you can mange minion waves well, try and hit 6 before the other mid laner, the second you hit 6 before, engage IMMEDIATELY. It catches SO MANY PEOPLE off guard.

For ADC i think Lucian/Xayah are 2 champs that are extremely strong and easy to play while still having room to improve. For my tips i would say focus more on last hitting than being agro, A kill gives you 300 gold, but if you are up about 15 or so farm, you are on par with the other ADC on gold if not a little bit ahead. Only engage and poke if you are built to do that. Cait/Ez should be poking 24/7 and draven should be punishing the other ADC for misstepping every chance he can get(with with over extending himself that is). Wait for your support to engage before trying to go in, or counter engage if you can.

I play BOTH Lucian and Xayah so... Wall of Text(TM) Lucian is prob one of the strongest dueling ADCs in the game(behind a good vayne) his burst is fucking off the charts and can delete ADCs like an assassin if he get on them. Make SURE you do not waste you're passive, weave auto attacks in between you're spells. Start every combo with a E if you can as you're passive will lower the cool down of your E. You're BEST burst combo if you can is E-AA-W-AA-E-AA-Q-AA-E-AA, and that will usesually fucking melt any squishy. You can cancel the W animation with your E, So if you're trying to kite, you can W behind and E forward almost at the same time(it's kinda hard to do but once you get it, it will be easy) so you can get the movement speed for kiting. another strong engage tool is your W-E-AA and just keep going with the standard burst combo. You're Ult can 100-0 any squishy and half health any tank if you can last most of if not all of the shots late game, try and use W before your ult though for movement speed. In lane try and keep a minion between you and the other ADC, whenever they stop to auto a minion, Q that said minion and hit the other ADC off of you're Q. Try and play lucian with an agro support as you will have strong lane pressure that way. Xayah is really strong as she can make her own CC, use Q-AA and you can get almost an instant root off, it can catch people off guard at level 2. Use you're Ult to avoid any kind of CC or burst spells coming after you(this CAN avoid a zed ult being put on you, kinda like fizz E). her self peel is fucking INSANE. i will sometimes not even get a defensive item because of this. a 100% crit chance xayah is fucking INSANE. Poke with her feather splash damage(kinda like lucian) and if you can, fight in the jungle, a Runnan's Xayah fighting in the jungle i would say is tied for the best DPS you can get(with jinx fishbones in jungle).

For support you can mostly play anyone and do fine. Just focus on trying to baby sit you're ADC, if this means you only counter engage, do it. I went for bronze 5 all the way up to silver 5 by being a 1 trick Braum player and only counter engaging. for tips i would just say make sure to get a ton of wards and don't play too over agro, you will die.

Just pick 2 roles to main, have 3-4 champs you can play in those rolls, and be able to play at least 1 pref 2 champs in every other lane. I hope this helps, and good luck on the rift man, hope to see ya in the upper ranks one day! [slayer-jinx-catface]

Illabethe2 votes

A few discrepancies:

  1. Early game Scuttle does NOT give tons of XP and Gold. It is only after the scuttle is rated level 7 that it gives competitive gold (First scuttle is only 70 gold - Krugs are 160 gold), and it's #3 camp for XP early game as well (Raptors give 40 XP more, Krugs give 242 XP)

If you can learn to take level 2 Krugs, you will always outgold/out XP a Scuttle prioritizer. Plus.... opposing junglers don't expect that pathing.

  1. In low elo, your teammates aren't necessarily any better custodians of your kills than you are.... if you give your adc 4-5 kills, it's almost assured that they will turn around and bounty that kill streak off to the other team's carry. If you can custodian kills better, take them. This means not dying, and generally only fighting strays, and pushing lanes/turrets when you can.

  2. I wouldn't advise Braum in low elos. Braum is EXTREMELY reliant on teammates who understand him. If his team is mobile, and he's not... he will be a dead weight on his team, because his team will abandon him, so he can't shield to them, and they won't use his passive after he hits. He's generally a strong situational champ since his wall can block projectiles, but on any other team.... he's liable to be dead weight the entire game.

WeaselRune1 votes
  1. I wouldn't advise Braum in low elos. Braum is EXTREMELY reliant on teammates who understand him. If his team is mobile, and he's not... he will be a dead weight on his team, because his team will abandon him, so he can't shield to them, and they won't use his passive after he hits. He's generally a strong situational champ since his wall can block projectiles, but on any other team.... he's liable to be dead weight the entire game.

Its that way for Bard too. Lots of people dont know how his shrines work, so they pick them up instantly not understanding that the healing amount doubles if you let them charge up. It also cost Bard a lot of mana, meaning wasting his healing will run that healing dry very fast. Also the way his Q stuns (people want them, but dont wan to help make them happen) its MUCH easier to land them off of the caster minions if they kill the middle minion so it wont hit 2 adjacent minions, but go past them and hit a champ instead. Then there is the fact that they rarely understand youre going to E a wall even tho you ping "on my way" on the wall... I really like playing Bard, but my own team is what hurts the most cause they cant be bothered to understand his (mainly healing) mechanics.

Illabethe1 votes

The one thing that makes Bard viable at low elos is simply that he has stand alone damage and reliable skill shots/mobility. Even if people misuse his heals he still has several purposes.

WeaselRune1 votes

Here is some advice I always give people.

Every skill counts. There are more skills than you may be considering.

1v1 Vision Objective Game sense Team fighting Farming/CSing Wave management Positioning Zoneing and probably half a dozen other things

So, every skill counts as I said. Sometimes people reach a platue with one skill, its time to start working on another skill. I mean even "Losing a lane well" is a skill, sub divided under the 1v1 skill.

Where you may not have the skills to farm more than your opponent, or beat them in a 1v1, you may be able to do well in teamfights, or vision control, or pinging objectives for your team.

Sometimes learning one of the other skills will help you all of a sudden be able to get some synergy to help with a skill youve maxed on. Better vision may inform you of a gank coming your way, and tell you to shove a wave and back. Sure you miss some gold, but you pick up the XP, waste the enemy jg time for coming to your lane, and get to buy.

Seeing the enemy jg smite a buff camp, and then get really hurt in a skirmish with you could be an opportunity to ping that this is a good time to go for a dragon so your team gets that objective, or seeing the enemy top TP, then die in a jg brawl could be your time to go take top turret.

Lots of little things can add up to an advantage. Pressing advantages, and covering weaknesses is how you win in the long run.

Watch replays, watch them twice. Once to see what you did without all the pressure of whats going on in front of you, and you can look at the big picture a bit more. Once from your opponents perspective to see what they were doing that worked so well for them.

Learn things about the game. One example I tell people is that "Did you know the Baron shreds armor and magic resist by up to 50 points?" Thats why if you see the enemy team mounting up near you when your fighting the baron STOP! They will rush in and blow your team up unless youre really far ahead.

https://youtu.be/gGVzQJjYw7Q?t=259

There is a video showing the armor/mr shred.

Thats just one tiny factoid that a lot of people dont know, but that knowledge gives an advantage. Its why I would wait for the enemy team to fight the baron for a bit so they take that reduction to armor/mr, so when I go in they take maximum damage. Knowledge is power; use it to create an advantage.

Another thing to consider is to select a pool of 1-3 champs to play. Preferably ones that can work in 2 roles, but the point is to have them mastered as much as possible. This will help you react faster, and be more successful with your actions in any given situation.

So there it is... I could go on, but its long enough.

To sum up. Try to learn other skills (i recommend vision, I made some warding videos including the baron one there), and increase your proficiency in those, pick a handful of champs 1-3 to main, learn some handy facts, and watch your replays to learn what you did wrong and others did right. Good luck :)

legean121 votes

okey i read this all and you acctualy didnt give me what i need it but from first comment a see a little point of playing ranked!.. so i tell you one my game i played about 1h ago... so lets start. I didnt know what to play i pull on search FiLL so Riot gave me a Botlane i took xayah.. i didnt have evan 25 farm i had 3 kills i had rakkan .. first back i had item 3006 and allmost item 3095 and i start farming killing botlane and jax camp bot so i buy 4 wards to ward all his jungle (i allways do that after lvl 5 i know he will came ) jax was going fed on top on akali vs vayne (i really dont know why people play adc against some good ap or something but akali was on 10 min 1/10 ) and mid also feed i have in 20 min about 22 kills and 4 times died i had allmost a full bulid but jax was having full bulid allready if he kills me we lost.. so tell me what you can do when your team feed so much but this is fkk every game every fk game.. i decide to find some good player to play with me but you can win 2v5 a mean if you are really insane player like someone who played more then 2000h hahah.. anyway i win that fight you know how ? i ask them do you wanna win they said yes then follow me and do what i said.. then akali said i will not you stupid polish and i answer him/her akali i am not polish i am from germany i dont wanna get fight with you just wanna win the game and she say no you will not win this she/he go died and write on /allchat go baron they are on botlane all we was and i say to my team they will no go baron.. anyway she go afk and somehow we kill them i dont know jax was farming on top we kill entire his team and win that was mistake from him.. i was having luck that game beacuse 3 players was bad but they want a win they didnt troll like akali they just dont know how to counter his enemy.. somehow i started play Azir and i lose 4 games from 5 i didnt feed they feed and surrender i told them dont we have late game but i am one they are four you now what did happend. thank you guys all for this.. i will try harder to place my rank in high i get in silver 2 for promo silver 1 only play botlane and its for me good luck everyone [sg-lux]

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