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Garen The Bane Of league (aside from Teemo)

Rektkris2014··3 votes·937 views

Insane Damage Insane Health Fast Btch if he build boots and deadmanplate with that Low CD Q that'll let him Run away (No matter ur #'s i will not yield) proceeds to btch out regens all his health with that stupid passive, comes back to W,Q,E oooo and the Ult and the ridicoulous passive it has to just smack the only person who has a chance to kill Garen (Carry) just ult to delete the carry's health kill the squishy and bugger off with that insane health and armor passive from his W "Kite Garen" i would but the Fucker pulls out a Flash Q,W,E and if that doesn't kill the adc that Homing Missle R will ruin ur day if u flash out or about to kill him then Q's to run out from under the turret that does no damage to him due to his Build and W passive like why even bother running away from turret if it just shoots BB's at him I hate this line so much "he is weak to CC" EVERY FUCKIN CHAMP IS WEAK TO CC THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE'LL LIVE THROUGH IT and persumable if he is in a 1v5 and has deadmanplate with insane health and speed ANd presses Q to F*ck off from the entire enemy team U could outsmart him i guess? But thats way to much effort and no reward while to garen ur high reward no effort Please explain to me how garen is balanced?

29 Comments

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

For the last time, not every champion is affected equally by CC.

You lock down a Master Yi, he blows up. You lock down a Nautilus, he shrugs it off and keeps going.

Ralanr2 votes

To squishies, CC is death. To tanks and fighters, CC is annoying.

Rektkris20141 votes

Exactly my point is that garen can just shrug off CC like it was nothing and people say CC counters him when it doesnt

sit kid1 votes

It does to a certain extend.

Garen needs to stick to a target in order to finish them, but if CC'd he can't do that. Yes, he is strong in 1v1 scenarios, but in a teamfight, CC him and do some damage to him to get him away. He actually isn't as op as you make him, and is actually one of the champions that does the least.

What does he do? Damage while being tanky? What more? Nothing.

Your average adc could just kite him with help of tanks and garen's damage would be useless since its the tank that is in range

Hauling Ashe1 votes

Are you trolling?

Rektkris20141 votes

Garen main?

Rektkris20142 votes

if u think vayne needs a tumble nerf why does garen not?

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Because it's 2 completely different champions?

Vayne was bursty & annoying as heck with her constant %HP/True Damage DPS. Garen....well.....what's a Garen when we have Darius? The only people who thinks Garen is broken & OP are the ones in Bronze & Silver.

Rektkris20141 votes

hold up garen ult is faster than darius ult thats the problem

Rektkris20141 votes

hold up garen ult is faster than darius ult thats the problem also garen has a passive that lets him regen health so he can back down for a few then whoops darius into the 5h demension if thats every the case

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Garen's HP regeneration only works when out of combat, meaning that you have to AFK lane/hug turret in order to utilize it. Plus, the HP regeneration is unnoticeable as fk in the early games, plus Darius only needs one AA to make Garen's passive useless, especially with his Bleed effect.

garen ult is faster than darius ult thats the problem

Ok, I'm really starting to think you're either hiding your Bronze account in this smurf of yours or just straight up trolling, cz this is in nowhere near an actual argument at all.

Darius's ult is reset-able on-kill, deals True Damage & deals double damage on 5-bleed enemy champions, giving him the capability of Penta-dunking the enemy team.

Garen's ult isn't reset-able & kills only a single target, while it being Magic or True Damage is highly situational.

Rektkris20141 votes

yeah but only in teamfights 1 on 1 garen will still fuck up darius anyway with that ult and even if u have to afk/hug turret u still get ur health back so u can get right back into it without backing out

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Not at all. Darius outdamages Garen even in pure 1v1 fights, plus during laning phase, Garen's E damage is lowered when hitting Darius with his minions nearby, while Darius just needs to hit all 5 stacks of Bleeds on Garen to gain the upper hand by gaining bonus AD.

Darius has the potential to push Garen to his own tower, making him lose a ton of cs when Darius is freezing lane.

Rektkris20141 votes

Yup right where garen belongs to regen his health while darius slowly regens so then garen can just smack darius

FireDrizzle1 votes

You'r complaining about Garen when Hecarim is in the game? Hec has 2 hard cc's, cc imunity on ult, and is much faster. Garen doesn't compare.

Rektkris20141 votes

Atleast nobody plays hecarim much in the top lane ive constantly seen garen in the top lane ruining everyones day and im pretty sure garen would fuck up hecarim with that stupid homing missle ult

Catastrop1 votes

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Atleast nobody plays hecarim much in the top lane ive constantly seen garen in the top lane ruining everyones day

Lissandra I don't know what you're talking about.

and im pretty sure garen would fuck up hecarim with that stupid homing missle ult

Garen needs to catch Hecarim first.

Rektkris20141 votes

Exactly after garen beats hec to a pulp he has to run away and back Bye Bye Tower!

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Exactly after garen beats hec to a pulp he has to run away and back Bye Bye Tower!

sure, if the hec decided to sit still and do nothing while Garen tries to useless attack him. Then sure this is what will happen... oh wait! the Hec is more than likely more intelligent than an AI and will actually destroy Garen with no effort whatsoever

ZephyrDrake1 votes

Garen... one of the most kitable champions in the game that is only really useful at lower elos... Garen the dude who is constantly hovering in mediocrity... You are complaining about Garen of all possible top lane champions that are in the game...

Rektkris20141 votes

Hah! his q has a speed boost and pretty much every garen has a deadman plate, any boots, and a flash the only person that can possible escape garen for so long is Vayne but if she is the carry (assuming she is) oh boy shes f*cked once garen catches up to her since his ult passive and that homing missle ult

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Hah! his q has a speed boost and pretty much every garen has a deadman plate, any boots, and a flash the only person that can possible escape garen for so long is Vayne but if she is the carry (assuming she is) oh boy shes f*cked once garen catches up to her since his ult passive and that homing missle ult

sorry but no, yes his Q is a speed buff and he usually builds deadman's... that doesn't mean anything at all. Garen has a 49.55% winrate. He has a decent pickrate since he is a fairly easy champion to use to anyone can pick him and be able to do anything. When you start playing smartly or with smart people then you will notice that all you need to do is wait for him to activate his Q before using any amount of CC on him. It doesn't have to be hard CC, it can be a slow a silence anything really and plenty of champions have at least a slow on their kits or on their items. Garen is then completely worthless since he won't be able to catch up to your backline. He is also going to be running right through your frontline which makes it even easier for your team to CC him or chunk him out before he reaches your carries. If he uses his W while he is charging at you it means that he won't have anything to prevent your carries from just making him explode by the time he reaches them. He also is only able to really deal damage to a very predictable target and it isn't always the carry, sometimes its the tank.

Garen the higher up in rank you go the less effective he becomes since people just naturally learn how to deal with him. He is one of those champions that when you master the basics of the game he becomes almost a non issue. Yes he can still do things but you need to be really good with him for him to be able to do anything at higher ranks, unlike quite a few other champions. His ult is also melee range, as long as you keep him away from whoever he is targeting then he is not going to be able to hit his ult, at least not on his desired target.

Learn to play against him, learn to harass him out of lane, learn to kite him, learn to know what to build against him, learn the basics of the game before you come here complaining about Garen of all champions. Hell let me give you a piece of advise... Darius destroys Garen, most ranged champions destroy Garen. People who like to be on people's face destroy Garen. Garen is not an issue in the slightest. He is constantly hovering in mediocrity

Rektkris20141 votes

Oh yeah so he can ult me the minute he catches me and dead also melee ranges Hah! the look on your face when u to flash out and Bwoop ded

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Oh yeah so he can ult me the minute he catches me and dead also melee ranges Hah! the look on your face when u to flash out and Bwoop ded

sorry but unless you are the villain his ult does next to no damage. Sorry but you can complain and put up as many stupid scenarios as you want. Garen is not an issue and only you seem to have any sort of problems against him. You can keep whining and bitching about Garen all you want. Does not change the fact that he is a very mediocre champion that is easily shut down and needs way too many things going his way for him to be of any real use. No idea why you are even trying to flash away when you are going to die in a few autos anyways.

VoidStaresBack1 votes

His ult scales based on your missing health, he's not going to delete you with his ult unless you're already pretty wounded and are the villain. The whole "flash out bwoop dead" thing is standard to all single-target with a cast time like that: they're already going to hit you the moment the cast starts, their animation just takes time to go off so you don't die the second the cast starts. The same goes for abilities like Cho'Gath's ultimate Feast, and this mechanic is the reason why Lee Sin's ultimate Dragon's Rage roots the target during its cast time so it doesn't knock them in strange directions because the target flashed.

Rektkris20141 votes

U know what guys ur completely right garen is a fun champion to play i was just playing against this pro Fiora who was kicking my ass. then i got to level 6 then i was like Nah Bish SYKE! then ulted her right when gets low half health and that pretty much sums it up she keep harrasing me juking me and then she has the audicity to think shes faker under my turret right when im about to die i flash out she takes turret hits and i just ult XD

GamblerOfLives1 votes

LOL garen op..what bronze are you??

Rektkris20141 votes

Lol sorta like when u are about to kill me oh oops homing missle ult dont even bother to try to flash out

Requiemsfire1 votes

Get gud. If garen uses his Q, just knock him away and then he can do nothing but aimlessly run towards you without any gap closing. :P

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