Coming from HOTS, looking for some familiar Champs and Playstyles

Maxx Million··1 votes·2,487 views

Hello, I decided not too long ago to give this game another shot. Loving it and appreciating it much more now than I did a few years ago. I'm looking for some Champs that have similar playstyles or kits to some Heroes I personally enjoyed on HOTS, and roles as well. I play a lot of Solo laners and Tanks and a few assassins on HOTS, my favorites including Leoric, Blaze (My absolute favorite), Johanna, Varian, Valeera, Sonya, Dehaka, Zul'jin, and Maiev. So far I've been playing Shen, Garen, and I'm enjoying Nautilus and Alistair as well. Any more recommendations would be appreciated.

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UnboundHades1 votes

zul'jin is like a weird mix between draven and tryndamere if you want to try them

EbonyBladeJ881 votes

Well, as a fellow HOTS player, the ones I draw parallels most with are as follows:

Warriors from HOTS compare most with Fighters and Tanks, obviously. Ones like Arthas and Imperius I think are comparable to Juggernauts like Garen (Since they really don't have any escape/mobility skills). Other tanks like Muradin (I know you didn't mention Muradin, I was just thinking of another example of a more mobile Warrior hero from the game) and Blaze, while obviously tankier than them, could be more like Divers in LOL as they have a bit more mobility (Muradin has his jump/Dwarf Toss and Blaze has his dash/Jet Propulsion). Dehaka is a mix between Thresh Thresh and Blitzcrank Blitzcrank of LOL. He has a pull that stuns like they do.

Ones like Varian, Zul'Jin and Maiev have more in common with the Assassins and Skirmishers of LOL. Heck, Zul'Jin's "Unkillable" ult is almost exactly like Tryndamere Tryndamere's own "Undying Rage" (That's why I sometimes call Zul'Jin Tryndamere when playing against him). Varian has his W Block, somewhat like Fiora Fiora has her Parry. Maiev has that jump (Don't know all the details about her since I don't play her) that makes her untargetable, like certain Assassins in LOL do. Talon Talon here can vault over walls, becoming untargetable in the process for example.

These are just a few of many champions in LOL that could be compared (Based on MY experience with both LOL and HOTS) with the Heroes of HOTS. You can pick up these champions or not, it's up to you.

Are there any Ranged Assassins of HOTS aside from Zul'Jin that you played? Some that might compare more to the ADC's of LOL? I would draw a parallel between Raynor, Hanzo, Valla and maybe a couple more that could be akin to Ashe Ashe, Varus Varus and Quinn Quinn.

Now, none of these, obviously are a 1-to-1 matchup. Meaning, none are EXACTLY alike with the Heroes you list here that you played, but I think if you look at them, you could find some similarities.

I can tell you more if you like. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Maxx Million1 votes

Ah! Ringing a bell as to more that I enjoy! Yea one thing that I have taken notice of so far while playing the game and spectating some stuff is that roles don't seem to be the same as they were in HOTS. I'd have to branch out a bit more, though quite a lot of champions in this game so it gets kinda tough to figure out what to try and buy next. I have been looking at Thresh and Tryndamere, and Talon does seem pretty fun to play. I have also played quite lot of Raynor after he was reworked, but only other ranged assassin other than him and Zul I played often was Junkrat. I also played a lot of Malthael and Arthas in solo lane, sometimes if it fit, ETC as well both solo lane and tank. Solo lane is definitely my favorite role, so I've been trying out Top Lane in this game very often. I would love any more suggestions that come to mind if you wanna.

EbonyBladeJ881 votes

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Ah! Ringing a bell as to more that I enjoy! Yea one thing that I have taken notice of so far while playing the game and spectating some stuff is that roles don't seem to be the same as they were in HOTS. I'd have to branch out a bit more, though quite a lot of champions in this game so it gets kinda tough to figure out what to try and buy next. I have been looking at Thresh and Tryndamere, and Talon does seem pretty fun to play. I have also played quite lot of Raynor after he was reworked, but only other ranged assassin other than him and Zul I played often was Junkrat. I also played a lot of Malthael and Arthas in solo lane, sometimes if it fit, ETC as well both solo lane and tank. Solo lane is definitely my favorite role, so I've been trying out Top Lane in this game very often. I would love any more suggestions that come to mind if you wanna.

First off, in terms of Top Lane your picks listed aren't too far off. Both Garen and Shen are played Top, with Shen also being capable to be played as a Support in the Bot Lane, though it's not his intended role, that being Top lane. Tryndamere is also a Top-laner, but is also viable in the Jungle depending on how you play and/or build him. Talon is seen mostly in the Mid-Lane, though he can also be seen in the Jungle, but it's few and far between. Thresh is a Support, through and through, though he's a more Aggressive Support than others.

The reason I brought up more ranged Assassins is because the Assassins in HOTS mix both the Slayers/Assassins of LOL and the Marksmen of LOL into one class. But here in LOL, they're separate; roles are VERY DIFFERENT in LOL in comparison to HOTS. Also, because LOL doesn't have the shared XP system that HOTS has, it is alot more INDIVIDUALLY focused, meaning you CAN solo carry ALOT easier than you can in HOTS, because everyone levels separately. Note the operative word is CAN, in that statement. You CAN solo carry, not WILL. Because of the more individually-based focus, you are ALOT MORE responsible for your victories, AND you are more responsible for your failures as well. Because everyone levels separately, you can get left in the dust in both levels and items if you do poorly.

I hope I'm not overwhelming you, or discouraging you with these pointers as that is NOT my intention.

One major difference is the Subclass system that LOL has.

There are the main classes that champions belong to, and then there are subclasses of those main classes.

For example, the main classes for champs comparable to the Warriors of HOTS are:

Tanks; Subclasses are Vanguards and Wardens.

Fighters; Subclasses are Divers and Juggernauts.

The Tanks of LOL deal more in the CC/Disruption and Damage-Absorbing aspects of the Warriors of HOTS, while the Fighters take their more damage-based aspects.

Let's say that if the Talent trees got split in half and each class took half for keeps, the Tanks took the defense-based ones and the Fighters took the assault-based ones.

There are descriptions for each subclass that gives a general idea of what each one does, ideally speaking. All of these are taken from the League of Legends Wikia, just so you know.

Here's the one for Vanguards: Vanguards are offensive tanks. Vanguards lead the charge for their team and are specialize at getting action started. Their explosive team fight initiation seeks to catch enemies out of position while allowing allies to follow-up to devastating effect. An example of a Vanguard Tank is Alistar Alistar .

Here's the one for Wardens: Wardens are defensive tanks. Wardens stand steadfast, seeking to hold the line by persistently locking down any on-comers who try to pass them. Wardens keep their allies out of harm’s way and allow them to safely deal with enemies caught in the fray. An example of a Warden Tank is Shen Shen .

Here's the one for Divers: Divers are the more mobile portion of the Fighter class. Divers excel at singling out high-priority targets to blitz toward, immediately forcing those targets (and their teammates) to deal with the diver’s presence. Divers are not as durable as the tanks or juggernauts of the world, but Divers can take their fair share of punishment while bringing enough damage to be a real kill threat if left unchecked. You don't list one of them that you've played as of yet, but an example of one of the Diver Fighters is Camille Camille.

Here's the one for Juggernauts: Juggernauts are melee titans who relentlessly march down the opposition and devastate those foolish enough to get within their grasp. They are the only subclass who excel at both dealing and taking significant amounts of damage, but in turn they have a tough time closing in on targets due to their low range and extremely limited mobility. An example of a Juggernaut Fighter is Garen Garen.

I can explain these more in-depth with another comment, just to make sure this one doesn't get too long or wordy.

Maxx Million1 votes

I honestly think I can give a shot to all of those sub roles for Tanks and Fighters. I was pretty open to trying out different sub roles in HOTS, and I think I can comfortably do so again in this game. I really appreciate the big posts, definitely makes me feel more comfortable going in and trying these different champs. Shen is proving to be one of my favorites right now, but I wanna go for some more aggressive stuff. Gonna take me a few lvls to get some more shards considering I'm only about lvl 18. Thanks a bunch dude :D

Sire Hippington1 votes

If you enjoy zul and junk, Jinx is kinda a mix of them(high dps potential with minigun, ranged aoe poke with rockets, immobile hyper carrie) Ziggs would get pretty close to junkrat.

For sololane, whyt exactly are you looking for? Early lane dominance? Strong splitpush? Good scaleing into teamfights? Certain mechanics?

Death by Glamour1 votes

the closest to johanna is likely Leona

Hammermancer1 votes

you like big beefy boys I see

I'd suggest looking into the 'juggernaut' roster

Urgot is something of a cross between tychus and sonya

Maxx Million1 votes

Absolutely, Bruiser role is a big favorite, but had no issue branching out a bit. Urgot caught my eye quite a bit since I enjoyed Zarya and Blaze who were both ranged warriors, Blaze being my absolute favorite. Played Tychus a bit too so would be cool to check him out. I'll take a look at that roster some more.

Daddy Ants1 votes

Valla screams Vayne to me.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Eve and Pike could work as Valeera substitute, Lurking around till they see a proper oportunity for executes, or setting up picks with CC from stealth. Camille, J4 and VI can somewhat funktion like Varian, can be builts high damage or tanky and excell at locking down and killing priority targets. Draven and Kogmaw can somewhat be compared to Zul'jin as very high damage marksmen with low mobillity that often can somewaht facetank and just shred appart approaching enemies. Aatrox might work, he's strong at laneing and controlling sidelanes and his ult can enable strong flanks into teamfights, so he works somewhat similar to balze/leorik/sonja just(as everything in lol) less beefy but with more damage. Irelia might also fit, a bit like maive a nimble meleecarry that also has engagepotential, though more focused on AAs rather than spells. Leona or braum should also fit as supports for you, hard to kill brickwalls that can be rather disruptive like johanna, with leona beeing a bit more agressive and enegage focused. Gallio probably is also a good call, high cc, good wavecontroll and a semi global ult, and his W feels a bit like the johanna one with the delayed selfcentered aoe

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