Another nerf on shaco

Lil Trash·Apr 11, 2018·3 votes·2,878 views

So today 11/4/2018 new patch notes were released. Most of them werent something that annoyed me. But 2 tweaks on 2 champions caught my interest. I main jungle. I main shaco. And today i see that rengar got a buff when he is already okay (Base attack damage went from 65>68). That annoyed me a lot. But what made me furious is the fact that shaco got another nerf. http://prntscr.com/j3psoo HERE'S YOUR PROOF. Shaco has been getting nerfed all the time! This guy explains my feelings quite well so here you go: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EQeWQ5Iu-shaco-nerfs-are-too-harsh . I am writting this to ask why he had to get nerfed again.

23 Comments

MannnyApr 11, 20183 votes

Mans was at a 56% winrate and you wonder why your main got nerfed. Lol.

Lil TrashApr 11, 20181 votes

trynda is at 54% does he need a nerf?

KaìjuApr 11, 20181 votes

Champions that are hard need to sit at a below 50% winrate naturally because that means that averagebplayera doing bad drag it down but dedicated players keep it from tanking. 48/49% is healthy for champions like Shaco, Zed, Riven, and Yasuo. Champions like Trynd are very simple, and as such don't need to he made so hard to win with for new players. Sure Trynd could use a bit of a nerf most likely, but he should sit at a 49% to 51% win rate.

FOR JUSTICEApr 11, 20182 votes

Tbh you have to remember, shaco gets free ass crit on top of the fact that tabis was nerfed and free hard cc from a box with annoying stealth that doubles as a blink. Getting oneshot is one thing, but getting oneshot by an enemy you cant even ward against is another

Rengo oneshots too but at the very least, this happens later

l MrD lApr 11, 20182 votes

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Tbh you have to remember, shaco gets free ass crit on top of the fact that tabis was nerfed and free hard cc from a box with annoying stealth that doubles as a blink. Getting oneshot is one thing, but getting oneshot by an enemy you cant even ward against is another

Rengo oneshots to but at the very least, this happens later

Shaco has no escapes if wants to kill he must use Q to engage... and because of that his main use late game is to split which isnt how an assasin should be at all

FOR JUSTICEApr 11, 20182 votes

In exchange for being almost impossible to deal with early game, but he can still two/three shot you late game, its just harder because grouping

Lil TrashApr 11, 20181 votes

Still its going to be a 1for1. Shaco can only use q to escape. But when his q is on cd he is legit crippled. He's been getting nerfed ever since he was created , but other champs still remain unbalanced.

Thee Pie ManApr 12, 20181 votes

If you're not placing boxes preemptively before an attack I don't believe you're playing to the strengths of the character. I love Shaco a lot but he needed the nerf. The Q damage ratio was too big of an increase and made AD shaco ridiculous with lethality against squishies. He became a 2 shot assassin which made his other abilities almost irrelevant and took away from the champion in general.

You could jump on most Squishes, duskblade with hydra and literally 2-3 shot them without even being that far ahead. It offered almost no counterplay except hiding behind your other champions and hoping they had their wits about them looking for Shaco/bought red trinks

If he's able to 2-3 shot carries with a few items and a little lead, then combine that with boxes and he's practically unstoppable when played correctly.

l MrD lApr 11, 20182 votes

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In exchange for being almost impossible to deal with early game, but he can still two/three shot you late game, its just harder because grouping

his early game isnt so strong either the stealth he hasdoesnt last long at all at rank 1 so his ganks arent go to be effective unless you put points into the Q but doing that means youre not putting them into E which means a loss of damage .. so its dagamge at he cost of poor damage or stealthy effective ganks at the cost of poor damage

GripaAviaraApr 11, 20182 votes

Great, they need to nerf him more until they rework him

Lil TrashApr 11, 20181 votes

Another rework? He was one of the assasins who got reworked.

GildarztApr 11, 20181 votes

they said even when they soft-reworked that he will recieve a full rework.

saltranApr 11, 20181 votes

Good

KaìjuApr 11, 20181 votes

I play with a Shaco main and he has no problem getting fed almost every game and he's Silver.

Yaśuo MainApr 11, 20181 votes

i mean, he's silver. whadya expect

KaìjuApr 11, 20181 votes

Silver players should not be able to play Shaco for how hard he's supposed to be.

Yaśuo MainApr 11, 20181 votes

he's not supposed to be hard

KaìjuApr 11, 20181 votes

I think he is. He's extremely mind games centric and mind games are not a low level skill.

Yaśuo MainApr 11, 20181 votes

that's AP shaco. AD shaco rn does not require mind games right now which is sad, only when ganking but that's just placing a box in the enemy escape route then slapping them

KaìjuApr 12, 20181 votes

All the more reason to nerf him. Assassins are meant to be hard, that's the risk in high reward.

Yaśuo MainApr 12, 20181 votes

No. Shift him to be more AP, not nerf him. Nerfing Shaco doesn’t solve the problem.

KaìjuApr 12, 20181 votes

It does when it gets him closer to a rework.

meowwow7Apr 11, 20181 votes

those patch notes have been out for a week and god forbid can we have a post after runes change?