Zoe's W Change

Alexi0001·1/6/2018, 7:30:31 PM·28 votes·4,022 views

Can Zoe's W (Spell Thief) limit access on some item abilities/summoner spells early into the game from minions?

I'm pretty sure that most people get tilted when a Zoe gets a redemption 5 mins into the game and heals all of the damage that was previously done.

I think that Zoe should get more access to a wider range of spell drops from minions as she levels up her W (She can always get item actives and summoner spells from people casting them, but she can't get a redemption from minions unless her w is (x) level).

27 Comments

ÈvilMorty1/6/2018, 8:14:33 PM11 votes

Played against one a few days back, her first spell off of a minion has a gun blade proc, rip my anus.

All serious now, i agree as she levels up her W she gets a wider range of spells/actives. Like level 1-2 more chance of getting a low tier spells, 3-4 increased chance for mid tier spells/actives, level 5 increased chance of mid to high spells/actives

Invidie1/6/2018, 8:11:06 PM4 votes

the creator of this champion obviously didn't realize how dumb this ability is, or not so intelligent I would say, having access to all the actives/summoner spells by RNG is retarded, no skill involved, pure luck. (riot I love you, don't ban me, please.)

invisiblecat11/6/2018, 11:17:52 PM3 votes

It is incredibly tilting to have to eat gunblade/protobelt at 4 minutes because of RNG

DuskDaUmbreon1/6/2018, 9:14:09 PM3 votes

Excessive hyperbole, as a 5 minute redemption is only going to heal 60-80 health, tops. That's nowhere near all the damage she took.

Your job against Zoe isn't to prevent her from grabbing the item after it drops, but to either a) Prevent her from last-hitting that minion in the first place, or b) Punishing her like hell when she goes to CS the minion or take the item. You know exactly where she's gonna head, so make it hell for her. You can easily take off half her health for a not even 100 HP heal.

GrReaper961/7/2018, 4:39:27 AM2 votes

You think redemp is bad? Seriously? summoner 12 is much much more OP. Its literally a free back. Once she gets it she spams all her mana quickly, backs and tps back for free

Salron1/7/2018, 1:43:54 PM2 votes

Earlygame Zoe redemption typically heals less than 100 hp though

{quoted} heals all of the damage that was previously done

lol

A Bepi1/7/2018, 10:01:46 PM1 votes

Honestly the problematic picks are

item 3146 item 3152 summoner 14 summoner 7 summoner 12 summoner 21 summoner 4 (flash not that problematic as others but still ok)

But ignite and gunblade are the most annoying imo

Danjeng1/7/2018, 1:38:29 AM1 votes

but oh boy is it so fun when she tps back to lane using a spell shard and comes back with full health and more items

Rathar Dashing1/7/2018, 2:13:57 AM1 votes

I think the biggest problem with the ability is the RNG and inconsistency of it.

I think instead of having it grant such a wide variety of items, they could make minions only drop summoner spells. I think most people could agree that a free heal is better than a free redemption, and similarly free ignite is better than free gunblade, free flash is better than free protobelt, etc.

ActuallyBanned1/7/2018, 1:09:34 PM1 votes

I'd make her W on a cooldown, where she can pick the second spell, but has to wait like 45 sec untill she use it again.

Cowseed1/7/2018, 8:09:41 PM1 votes

I'm pretty sure that most people get tilted when a Zoe gets a redemption 5 mins into the game and heals all of the damage that was previously done.

Lies!!!! A level 5 redemtion heals less than a potion. She doesn't even build for it to be an effective heal late game. Of all the spells and actives you could have mentioned this was your first pick?