Greetings,
Quite some time ago, Stormrazor got completely changed. After that it saw very little gameplay which suggests that the item was gutted. Im my opinion, Stormrazor should be brought back to its former state or at least receive a positive change that would make it viable again.
Feel free to share your opinions.
HàrrowR5 votesStormrazor is a good design if there's no crit in the game, but since crit always existed and will probably always exist, there's just no point to this item, it delays your core zeal + IE build, lowers your late game potential than if you just went crit, kinda delays all of the other items including defensive ones like GA or Merc cause you just need to get your crit first etc.
Even if items like IE were nerfed and Stormrazor was made somehow viable again, this would just switch the meta to on-hit again, Vayne,Varus,Lucian would be played, maybe even lethality MF and Jhin, so honestly this item just doesn't fit into the game at all even if it's a good item on paper, i honestly kind off liked the item, it was to crit carries what botrk was to on-hit carries, a solid all around first item that doesn't really need other items to work, only problem was botrk goes perfectly into guinsoo, a match made in heaven, while SR kinda awkwardly goes into crit, if the item was changed so it gave crit it could work
Kazekiba4 votesCost increase + stat reduction killed it, but its intended state is actually very good if its picked up. Crit builds are very competitive though so "good" and balanced items dont get bought - ONLY Over powered items. Its not that SR is gutted, theres just no room for it when Infinity Edge is still extremely powerful
ZephyrDrake1 votesCost increase + stat reduction killed it, but its intended state is actually very good if its picked up. Crit builds are very competitive though so "good" and balanced items dont get bought - ONLY Over powered items. Its not that SR is gutted, theres just no room for it when Infinity Edge is still extremely powerful
The item is useless. It's not "good" I'm any capacity. It's only "good" when you want to stack zeal pretty much every zeal item and even then It's not worth it. The item gives no crit, costs a ton and quite frankly It's just bad. ER and IE are better. The zeal items already good enough without stormrazor. What is even the point of picking it up? Your late game would be weaker than if you went IE, you aren't going to get mana or cdr like you would if you went ER and It's too expensive and reliant on other items so It's not even an early game item. It's an item that provides nothing but delaying your actual powerspikes.
It either needs to be cheaper, give more stats or have more "energized" effects added to the game that aren't tied to zeal items. As it stands now? There is literally no reason to pick it up unless your kit somehow manages to synergize incredibly well with it.
Kazekiba4 votesThe item is useless. It's not "good" I'm any capacity. It's only "good" when you want to stack zeal pretty much every zeal item and even then It's not worth it. The item gives no crit, costs a ton and quite frankly It's just bad. ER and IE are better. The zeal items already good enough without stormrazor. What is even the point of picking it up? Your late game would be weaker than if you went IE, you aren't going to get mana or cdr like you would if you went ER and It's too expensive and reliant on other items so It's not even an early game item. It's an item that provides nothing but delaying your actual powerspikes.
It either needs to be cheaper, give more stats or have more "energized" effects added to the game that aren't tied to zeal items. As it stands now? There is literally no reason to pick it up unless your kit somehow manages to synergize incredibly well with it.
That's kind of my point. The items it wants to synergize with are built around other items that are downright overpowered, so taking Stormrazor instead is never the best option. It's not that SR is too weak, it's that IE+RFC is too strong when even an idea case, Fleet + Shiv + RFC + Stormrazor, is inferior to just IE + RFC regardless of runes.
ZephyrDrake2 votesThat's kind of my point. The items it wants to synergize with are built around other items that are downright overpowered, so taking Stormrazor instead is never the best option. It's not that SR is too weak, it's that IE+RFC is too strong when even an idea case, Fleet + Shiv + RFC + Stormrazor, is inferior to just IE + RFC regardless of runes.
it is weak. Even if you nerf both IE and ER people would just go back to on hit builds. The item is horrible in every sense of the word. It's not a early game item, it's an item that is inferior in the late game and it's an item that delays your mid game powerspikes. Tell me in what world is an item like that "good"? in what world is an item like that "not weak"? The item is completely and utterly useless. When the way to make an item be good is to completely destroy it's competition then the item is weak and not worth using at all. It's an item that had a niche before and now the niche is even smaller and the payoff is worst. That is the sign of a weak item.
Kazekiba2 votesit is weak. Even if you nerf both IE and ER people would just go back to on hit builds. The item is horrible in every sense of the word. It's not a early game item, it's an item that is inferior in the late game and it's an item that delays your mid game powerspikes. Tell me in what world is an item like that "good"? in what world is an item like that "not weak"? The item is completely and utterly useless. When the way to make an item be good is to completely destroy it's competition then the item is weak and not worth using at all. It's an item that had a niche before and now the niche is even smaller and the payoff is worst. That is the sign of a weak item.
Attack speed AD synergy with a rune keystone multiplies the tower pushing strength of RFC increased sustain through FFW procs On-hit slow
If they kept the item at 2800 gold instead of increasing the combine cost by 350g and nerfing its stats, it would be built often. As it is, Kai'sa doesn't synergize with the Crit as much as other ADCs as she needs the combination of stats more, both for her evolves and to make her passive hit as hard as possible. This means the item is entirely balanced around an ADC that was overpowered with the item even if she was weak without it/balanced with other builds. That doesn't mean SR itself sucks, it just does not have the stats to match the cost after BOTH aspects were nerfed. Lost AD, 10% Aspeed, and increased cost by 300 for no reason
ZephyrDrake1 votesAttack speed AD synergy with a rune keystone multiplies the tower pushing strength of RFC increased sustain through FFW procs On-hit slow
If they kept the item at 2800 gold instead of increasing the combine cost by 350g and nerfing its stats, it would be built often. As it is, Kai'sa doesn't synergize with the Crit as much as other ADCs as she needs the combination of stats more, both for her evolves and to make her passive hit as hard as possible. This means the item is entirely balanced around an ADC that was overpowered with the item even if she was weak without it/balanced with other builds. That doesn't mean SR itself sucks, it just does not have the stats to match the cost after BOTH aspects were nerfed. Lost AD, 10% Aspeed, and increased cost by 300 for no reason
"It either needs to be cheaper, give more stats or have more "energized" effects added to the game that aren't tied to zeal items. As it stands now? There is literally no reason to pick it up unless your kit somehow manages to synergize incredibly well with it."
literally what I said. You can keep saying "it doesn't suck" all you want. The item is garbage and will continue to be garbage regardless of what you do to every single other item around it because the item IS NOT WORTH IT!. Are you going to repeat the exact same thing over and over? well I will keep saying the exact same thing over and over since you literally are saying nothing at all. Item is trash. the item itself needs changes. The item is not worth picking. This is the definition of an item that SUCKS!
iiGazeii4 votesNah. The old version overshadowed every other marksman item. The free kiting and damage was just too good to pass up.
The new version could use some crit. Balance it as an alternative to Infinity Edge. No marksman wants flat AD and AS as a last item. Marksman are either looking to buy penetration or a defensive item at that stage of the game. It needs to be a first or second buy to be relevant.
Or rework it (again), and make it give an empowered crit as an active, kinda like a Tiamat for marksman. You hit the button, and your next attack is a crit with a reduced multiplier (scaling with crit chance), plus an extra effect like a slow, a speed buff, armor penetration, something like that.
Tr4shB4NSYST3M4 votesI personally would like to see a different version of the old stormrazor crit every 4 sec without attacking passive come back maybe without the MS/AS buff.
b/c it was a fantasic last item on champs like 
who want to crit but if they itemize into 
they end up super squishy
