Plss buff kalista!!!

dat Racoon·Nov 2, 2016·4 votes·691 views

Do you think kalista should get e buff?

19 Comments

TyrekGoldenspearNov 2, 20163 votes

Can we buff Azir too?

His win rate is sad as well.

RalanrNov 2, 20162 votes

The problem with Kalista is the amount of mobility on her passive. People complain about Yasuo having unlimited mobility, but in all honesty she's the better example of a champion with unlimited mobility.

The sheer power of her passive makes it hard to balance her. Especially with less and less point and click CC in the game.

Wolfram OxfordNov 2, 20162 votes

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The problem with Kalista is the amount of mobility on her passive. People complain about Yasuo having unlimited mobility, but in all honesty she's the better example of a champion with unlimited mobility.

The sheer power of her passive makes it hard to balance her. Especially with less and less point and click CC in the game.

You don't realize however that she cannot move in the same way as other champions. Her dash has a small cool down and she telegraphs where she is going to move. Her success depends on both the skill of the player playing her and the enemy playing against her. So her passive isn't an issue with even skill, just like anything else. It has a benefit and a cost. People just don't realize that and therefore assume she is "broken". Also, I think people too often will say that she has a poor design. I think she could be fixed just like Riot fixed Nunu, and before he was buffed people would say similar things, "he is either oppressive or complete trash" . For the case of Kalista Riot just needs to find what can help her without making her too good. I think if they payed attention to some of the post from her mains or used-to-be mains they would be closer to figuring out how to fix Kalista.

RalanrNov 2, 20161 votes

Oh I know that there is a cost to her ability. It's just that when fighting against a good Kalista player the cost doesn't seem to be there.

Now I know when playing against someone who is really good at the champion it makes the champion seem broken. But Kalista effectively had infinite kiting potential (which may not even be the biggest problem) as well as great objective secure (which may have been a problem).

She has a surprising anount of utility and her normal weakness (being squishy) can be negated easily by buying items like frozen mallet.

I'll admit that I'm not st expert on Kalista, so these are mainly opinions.

EvilUnicornLordNov 2, 20161 votes

She's eating a miserable winrate of 41.29%? Yes, she needs buffs.

Will anyone else agree with you because they can't get over the butthurt from when she was actually overpowered? No, probably not.

TyrekGoldenspearNov 2, 20161 votes

I saw a Kalista in ARAM once.

She must have been an OTP she was scary.

If she was buffed we would def see a lot more mobile champs and less immobile ones. I never saw Kalista strong, but I'd like to support a Good Kalista.

EvilUnicornLordNov 2, 20161 votes

I've only seen a good Kalista in Nemesis Draft (because we forced the entire enemy team do be ADCs so I only had to build armor, being the tank)

TyrekGoldenspearNov 2, 20161 votes

Did you win?

EvilUnicornLordNov 2, 20161 votes

Easily. Everyone seems to think forcing the enemy team to be full support is the best strategy, but they tripped over eachother to farm and eventually got to the point that our Soraka could 1v1 their Draven.

Only Kalista and Graves did anything useful.

And I wasn't even a real tank, I just built full tank because I was given Shyvana.

TyrekGoldenspearNov 2, 20161 votes

Cool. My teams would usually give the enemy one type of attack, either AP or AD. Then work around that.

Once they gave me Azir. :D

Another time they gave me Mundo.

I never died. And our AD Soraka went legendary.

TendajiXNov 2, 20161 votes

It's not being butthurt, it's that her passive makes her too cancerous to balance (like Evelynn ). Unlimited mobility with no cutoffs ( Yasuo is op but at least he can't dash using the same target twice) is incredibly powerful, so powerful that for anything else in her kit to be strong would make her absurd.

EvilUnicornLordNov 2, 20161 votes

So it lets her kite really well. That doesn't mean they should just nerf her to oblivion and let her stay there. I really hate this "kill and forget" attitude of most of the people here. Riot spends forever making an awesome champion with a unique and original kit, takes them out back to shoot them, then forgets about them.

And what does everyone do about it? Make suggestions to tweak them into balance? No, they just say "They're broken, let's forget 'em" and whine about Yasuo/Syndra/whoeverthecirclejerkhateisdirectedtoatthemoment.

TendajiXNov 2, 20161 votes

Well here's the issue. You CAN'T tweak them into balance. That's the whole point. Champions like Kalista must be REWORKED to achieve balance. Kalista is doomed because Kalista is relatively new, meaning she is minimum priority for any scale or rework. She won't be reworked but her passive's immense power makes it so she can't be balanced without it. Something like " Kalista must be in combat for x amount of seconds before her passive activates" could potentially make her balanced, but something like that falls on the scale of a low level rework, not a tweak.

EvilUnicornLordNov 2, 20161 votes

I think a better idea would be to simply give her passive a 2-3 second cooldown between each jump. That way she can remain very mobile like Riot intended, but not too mobile. I can't honestly say that would fix it, I'd have to play her a few times first.