Make Energized attacks fall off out of combat

Blood Mefist·9/20/2017, 12:13:04 AM·101 votes·3,361 views

Part of the reason I think ADCs are a problem right now is that Energized attacks let them burst at the start of a fight/passively waveclear with no interaction. Making Energized stacks fall off out of combat keeps its strength in extended fights (where adcs should be strong) but removes its pre-fight power.

60 Comments

ModDaenrysTargaryen9/20/2017, 12:15:39 AM11 votes

uhh you get stacks by moving for energized so there is no way it would work that when they are out of combat that the stacks would lessen

hhaavviikk9/20/2017, 7:18:27 AM8 votes

frankly why is shiv even a thing? why do adc's need more burst, you could say ''but waveclear'' but that's what runaans is for, why do mages get ludens? because those that do want to brust and that's what they need because of cooldowns. Why do adc's get shiv? just for brust eventhough they don't need it and shouldn't be able to get it

sobi9999/20/2017, 9:31:54 AM8 votes

Adc's are actually bursting squishes atm. 1 AA and half life gone, and its so brain dead as well to just right click.

AFilthyCaitMain9/20/2017, 3:42:49 AM7 votes

Really the only problem is Shiv. Too much damage from its passive.

aspects19/20/2017, 7:45:50 AM4 votes

im pretty sure riot wants energized attacks (esp firecannon) to stack up out of combat and then be used to poke and such, not to be used in an extended fight

Asayake 5150glow9/20/2017, 12:28:02 AM3 votes

Ah this makes sense. Good solution afaik.

Asayake 5150glow9/20/2017, 11:23:44 AM3 votes

Oh, this might take off a lot of Firecannon's effectiveness though.

Aimléss9/20/2017, 10:56:16 PM2 votes

That would make RFC the most useless item of all time lmao.

Thefrostyviking9/20/2017, 1:18:31 PM2 votes

Static shiv needs to be reverted, that item since it's buffs has been causing far too many balance problems for botlane :(

First it broke caitlyn, and now it's on Tristana, Jinx, Draven, Vayne and even MF more and more from what i can tell.

I mean, why got lethality MF with duskblade when you can get static shiv and crit for double the damage?

Before any more marksmen get gutted like caitlyn only to then be reverted someone gotta nerf static back down :(

Hammermancer9/20/2017, 1:20:55 PM2 votes

Waaaait

wtf would rapidfire cannon do then

Terchio9/20/2017, 9:20:20 PM2 votes

Why are we blaming energized attacks now? Their whole point is adding a bit of burst in a role completely built around DPS. If ADCs are strong with these items, then mages should be envious of their potential burst. But they're not, because the only real problem is that there's not enough DPS tradeoff for the burst.

Energized attacks are fine, healthy even. It should be adding variety to the bottom lane. What needs to stop is these items also having the game's strongest crit chance, high AS, and decent mobility too, why not?

Dengeden9/20/2017, 7:11:18 PM1 votes

The magic damage is negligible as the game goes on and Shard items were sort of designed as hit-and-run items (which is something ADCs can very rarely do effectively) ... but since they're not really used in that way, I like this idea.

SlashStriker9/20/2017, 9:01:40 PM1 votes

The point of Statikk Shiv is while you move you gain stacks and to help you with wave clears

Xion The XIV9/20/2017, 1:17:10 PM1 votes

I would say make item 3094 have like a mini Jhin/Cait passive on critting a single shot when it stacks to 100(But make it so it can only stack while in combat). With shiv doing more damage on champions and half damage on Minions. So it does like 100 damage it will only do 50 on Minions Capped.

DarkRitual9/20/2017, 3:10:14 PM1 votes

How about making shiv and rfc energized attacks not work together at all first? Instead of getting the best part of each.

Or make shiv melee only.