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Can We Just Say Enough With The Nasus Already?

DubbsBunny·2/16/2015, 7:18:52 PM·2 votes·706 views

There has got to be a way to fix this. Nasus has joined the ranks of early-Darius in having virtually no counterplay. I am extremely sick of playing against a champ whose motto seems to be, "Lose Lane, Go Negative, Focus on CS = Win Game". There's nothing more frustrating than seeing an 0/7 Nasus walk into your base, tank 4 of your players, lay down 95% slows frequently, and melt two of your teammates in two shots. It presents almost no incentive to learn different skills and presents no opportunity to come back. Picking Nasus is essentially putting a time limit on the game, saying, "Good luck guys. If you can't win this in 25 minutes, we win."

Maybe I'm missing everything. Maybe I'm just completely out of the loop. I've tried denying farm. I've been up 30 cs on Nasus in lane, but at some point you have to partake in the rest of the game and the dog just keeps going. I've tried building armor shred/magic pen and going ranged. His slow makes you useless anyways, and he still remains unkillable. I'm open to suggestions on dealing with this dude, but as it is right now he completely sucks the fun out of every single game he appears in, and for that reason alone I find him extremely toxic to the game.

The dog needs to be put down.

14 Comments

McAllister2/16/2015, 7:37:47 PM3 votes

From a Nasus main:

Win early. You figured this out. I'm not participating in early teamfights and I do shit to react to a roam.
Master Yi is a serious weakness. No, Master Yi can't duel me, I built full tank aside from my Last Whisper and I have hundreds of stacks. However, his ult breaks my Wither, so if he can shred 2-3 of my teammates, there's nothing I can do about it and I probably can't carry the 2v4 afterwards. Also, anyone who channels (Kat, Fiddles, Nunu) is a problem, because I can't do anything about it. I can two-shot Kat, but not before Death Lotus does its job.
I love split pushing. You know who can duel me past minute 25? Probably nobody. That said, if your team can 4v4 my team and you send someone who's smart enough to slow down my push without getting killed, you can take objectives on me.
If we're in a 5v5, you've basically got to collapse on me. I'm building tank and ulting to make this take as long as possible, but lategame favors offense over defense: buy some Last Whispers/Void Staffs and slaughter me. I'll Wither something and hope my teammates can take advantage of all the ordinance you blew on me.

Just accept that he's a lategamer. He will win almost any lane eventually and his Q will get massive eventually, but plenty of people can beat his pants off early and carry harder.

DubbsBunny2/16/2015, 7:31:22 PM1 votes

So I understand that much, but what's the answer in an actual game? It's all well and good to have several of your teammates kiting nasus and taking him out over a 20 second period, but what happens when in those 20 seconds you also have an Akali coming up behind him, a Sona locking you down, and Caitlyn sniping everybody who's been 95% slowed or stunned?

Darkwind2/16/2015, 7:34:58 PM1 votes

ACtually, one persone CAN kite him- especially if he doesn't have flash. Anivia

Ragnar422/16/2015, 7:53:02 PM1 votes

How to Kill Nasus:

ADC's with BOTRK, Armor Pen, and a touch of mobility Bonus points if you can find true damage in the kit.. There's a point in the game where Nasus just wants to split push. If an ADC were go up top and punish the Nasus and force him back out of lane from his split pushing, you can turn that 25 minute nasus into a 35 minute Nasus, and your chances of winning increases considerably, because EVERYONE will have out-farmed him.

Snarflaz2/16/2015, 8:12:45 PM1 votes

Nasus is slightly OP. I usually go with Tri force on nasus first because his Q can crit. When i found out i was like wtf and 1 Q from nasus = 1/2 of a adc's health.

xLegendary Troll2/16/2015, 8:21:48 PM1 votes

Play Vlad and harass for free all day?

Pryotra2/16/2015, 8:33:22 PM1 votes

If a nasus that far behind is destroying you that hard, you need to consider that you took too long to win.

Nasus is an insurance policy champion. After a certain amount of time, if nasus has been playing he will win, to the point of 1v5'ing your team. You need to win before he can do that.

redniwediS2/16/2015, 7:24:34 PM1 votes

If you've got an enemy Nasus tanking four people and winning a fight on his own then you have a bad team. You have to fight Nasus the same way you would take an early Baron, except instead of using proximity to swap aggro you have to use CC to peel him and force him to swap targets in order to stay alive.

DestructoDave2/16/2015, 8:41:36 PM1 votes

The main problem is everyone in low elo wants to play carry champions, so you end up having a bunch of squishy champs running around he can actually 2 shot when he finally gets to him. CC/slowing tanks shut him down entirely. Hes only scary when he gets on top of squishies, or when he gets to afk split push. Other than that, his damage isnt that great. I dunno how many nasus players I have wrecked because I just spammed CC on them when I was playing a CC bot and they didnt do anything but Q me a few times for hardly any dmg, because they never have a Last Whisper or any Armor Pen in their builds, and simply cannot hurt other tanks very well.

But again, no one plays tanky champs, everyone wants to Yi/kat/fiora/jax/annie/adc all day long, and even tanky junglers like J4 end up having hydras and various things and cant deal with him either.

Funnily enough, The last one I faced was doing exceptionally well, but I shut him down completely as a support tank gragas. I literally spammed CC on him to where he could barely move and could only hit me, and he couldn't kill me before he died. I've did the same thing with a Shen, too. Just keep taunting him over and over and he cant kill you.

The hard part is when no one plays to contain him, and you are on an adc or some squishy champ and there isnt anything you can do because your entire time is carry all damage mode and gets dumpstered.