Mordakaiser (WTF happened?)

Blckspawn·11/18/2015, 7:28:37 AM·16 votes·1,647 views

Since all of the new Marksman items and new Masteries, WTF has happened to Mord??? Rito wants him to be in the BOT lane but a marksman with any of the new items can out range/damage and fuck his world. If you go tanky, you dont have enough damage to trade properly and if you go damage you dont have enough defense/ mobility to hold your own when something happens.

I have been trying to play him in other lanes and he cant hold his own with his abilities being focused towards having someone near by.

Any thoughts?

28 Comments

Malicious Metal11/18/2015, 8:00:18 AM6 votes

Well, Riot is going to do some extensive work for him apparently.

Let's just hope it'll make him a viable solo laner once more

Blckspawn11/18/2015, 7:35:26 AM5 votes

They should take back all of the shit about being in a lane with someone else. Have his "W" the way it used to be. raise his base stats a little and give his ult the ability to get a ghost of the rift herald.

Vhalthoria11/18/2015, 12:08:00 PM3 votes

Remember those days where Morde was amazingly fun to play as there at Top and Mid? I don't think this new Melee caveman-Morde (In any of his incarnations) will bring that back up. Unfortunately.

I already lost faith a long time ago. They fucked up something that wasn't broken. Now we are stuck with whatever garbage tweaks they throw in the way.

The only way to show them how displeased we are is by refusing to play the game. That's how voices are heard. If you keep playing the game then they already won.

Tengrichan11/18/2015, 12:47:15 PM2 votes

You didn't see it coming?It was kind of obvious that he would disappear.

Chuck Charles11/18/2015, 11:05:06 AM2 votes

his rework was honestly an atrocity overall. they had a decent idea, but it was very poorly implemented and makes him either feast or famine. he's either going to be oppressive as all hell and snowball out of control or be completely useless.

I think they will revisit morde for sure. they just have a lot else on their plate right now. he is not in a good state. I still think he's broken if you play him properly, but he's still too feast or famine regardless. his current playstyle is honestly worse than his old self. His old self was cancerous as well, but believe me...i'd rather have an oppressive shield that is a bitch to get through rather than someone who can crush or be crushed.

Weathered11/18/2015, 1:39:13 PM1 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/11/1117-pbe-update.html

PBE Morde changes. I don't know if this helps your cause or not.

Fusarix11/18/2015, 7:30:00 AM1 votes

Not to mention the League of Crits that morde just simply does not scale with. Did I mention the nerf to trinity and the overall cost of his core items increased? No? well theres that too. They buff all these juggernauts and make them this big huge deal, but make them all almost obsolete due to a new season being released. Fiora doesn't scale well with the new mastery tree or the items, so people aren't playing her. Same problems with Darius and Morde (Skarner too, but I feel this is to a lesser extent, the defensive masteries are very good for him)

Stars Shaper11/20/2015, 2:49:22 PM1 votes

It's not preseason specific, but we've also got some significant follow up work on Mordekaiser coming soon. Statikk should be covering that in a separate thread in the Dev Corner within the next couple of days, with some context on what we felt worked and what didn't from the Morde rework in 5.16, plus thoughts on what our next steps are and why when it comes to addressing issues Morde has.

Source Link

This was posted 2 days ago so we might be reading about it in the weekned if they don't slack.

3TWarrior11/18/2015, 7:52:09 AM1 votes

I think riot essentially created the range increase item as a counter against mordekaiser and escaping carries so that mordekaiser wouldn't be 100% pick or ban

mordekaiser's E range is just about the same range as most auto attackers until later game but his job is to shut down the opposing carry early

Jotunheimr11/18/2015, 8:33:09 AM1 votes

Huehuehue! Yep, I dind it almost impossible to adc Morde now, unless I have a thresh or blitz support. If not, I am absolutly facerolled. It sucks. The adc's heals are waaaay too much for Mordekiaser to handle, given his base health, movespeed, the fact that his AA range is getting nerfed..

How are we supposed to compete with them? Distaced they poke hard. Up close they melt our squishy and immobile Morde early. Try to run(with MS quints) you can't, and are fully screwed if they have cc.

As long as I don't die at all I can take the adcs later.

Even when I went top today: Trynd destroyed me from the get go, AND I KILLED HIM EARLY. He healedconstantly. Warlords+crit+lifesteal OP. He also attacked faster than me as well, obviously. There where times when he woyld have died, but flipped his ult before 3rd q. Well played Tryndamere, well played.

Now don't get me wrong, I had scaling health yellows, so my survivability grew thru the game. We still won, I made a comeback and we won the game. Honestly, I was lucky to have my team by me for AoE w damage and poke, or id have not made said massive comeback, but the scaling health helped. BUT EVEN STILL Trynd could kill me always, crazy easily, even after my comeback.

I hope they make Mordekiaser viable again in this new "crit meta" so to speak. He feels left out; Mordes q does not even proc crits. The qs dont proc much at all, acually. Maybe just Liandrys, Rylias, and Deadmans. Maybeee Ludens, but I doubt it.

Chespin201311/18/2015, 11:17:22 AM1 votes

I just want my W to be useful by myself as Mordekaiser and not have that stupid white circle on him. I miss the spinning metal shards surrounding him made me him feel like a badass and him being able to say "Yup" when he casted his E again because he no longer says it. Also would like it if they gave him extra movement speed and get rid of those AD ratios on his spells.

DragonShea11/18/2015, 12:01:10 PM1 votes

Riot Fucked up morde that is what. Unless they make him a Top/mid laner again he is gonna be shitty for the time being